100mm Ektar for 4X5"?

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  1. Soeren

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    Hi All
    I just got a 4X5" Chromega with negholders for 4X5", 6X9cm, 6X7cm and 24X36mm + a 50mm Nikor, 80mm Rodenstock and a 100 mm Kodak Ektar (made in London). The seller assured me it should cover 4X5". From what I know that would need a 135mm.
    Does the Kodak cover the format?
    How easy is it to get the lensboards/tubs:wink: for a Chromega II D?
    Will I need a longer one if I get a 135mm?
    Kind regards
     
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    The cones are pretty common on ebay, though mostly from sellers in the U.S.
    According to Ask Harry, a 135 uses a 2 3/4 inch cone, and the 150 uses a 4 1/2
    http://www.classic-enlargers.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1099503384/1

    Don't know about coverage with the Ektar, I wouldn't be surprised at it working, though you might have edge sharpness problems.
     
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    Which 100mm Ektar is it? There were two, the Wide Field 100mm Ektar and another that was not wide field. I believe that the WF Ektar will cover 4x5 as a taking lens, but I've never tried it as an enlarging lens...

    - Randy
     
  4. Soeren

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    This is the 4", 100mm f/4,5 Kodak Ektar (London) enlarging lens.
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    That lens would really be intended for 6x9
    Mark
     
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    When somebody claims something "covers" the first thing I wonder is at what magnification. With on camera use a lens coverage doubles at 2x magnification. I can't remember how it works with enlarger lenses but I want to say coverage is also listed at infinity so smaller prints can work with shorter lenses.

    OTOH modern 135mm lenses are fairly cheap used.
     
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    Thanks guys I did suspect that.
    Another question. The 800 and the 100mm are mounted on lenscones. I havn't measured them yet but is they realy needed for those focallenghts? Could I use one of the cones for a 135mm instead and mount e.g. the 80mm on the flat one that currently holds the 50mm?
    Kind regards
     
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    With my old DII with condenser head, the 80mm mounts on a flat board. In fact, my 105mm also mounts on the flat board. My 135mm goes on the short cone (2 3/4"), while the 150mm goes on the longer cone (4 1/2").

    I use the 80mm for 6x4.5 and 6x6, and for 35mm if I'm printing 4x5 or 5x7 prints (It gives me more working room and a longer exposure time.). The 80mm will cover 6x7 but I prefer the 105mm for 6x7 and 6x9. I can print up to 16x20 with the 135mm from a 4x5 negative but only up to 11x14 with the 150mm.
     
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    Thanks again.
    Any clue on why these lenses were mounted this way ( well ofcource ask the seller :smile: )
    Will it have any effect on how big I can print?
    Kind regards