110 Discontinued at Wal Mart.

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  1. Ektagraphic

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    As some of you guys that shoot any 110 film will know that one of the only places to easily get 110 is Wal Mart. I shoot it on occasion with some of the neat old cameras out there it works with. I just went into Wal Mart yesterday to pick some more up and I found that they were not going to carry it anymore. Good 'ol Kodak 110 film. I have not seen this stuff anywhere else even online. You can find Mickey mouse brands, but I would rather stick with Kodak. You can stock up as it is now only $2 per roll. I figured it was only a matter of time.
     
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    According to the Wikipedia article on 110 film, Kodak and Fuji stopped making it. I'm not sure if that's true or not; I saw Fuji Super G in 110 format at my local place just last week.
     
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    i guess it is time to stock up
    ... and then buy a film slitter!
    the fellow who used to(?) run the
    subclub site sells film slitters on ebay ...

    i have wanted one for a long time, but figured
    i would be able to get more film as i needed to ..
    i guess there is no time like the present ..

    thanks for the heads-up!
    -john
     
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    I think they might make the film just for WalMart(?). The only other place I have been able to find it is ebay. I have bought it from WalMart for a while so I think they are still making it.
     
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    Ferrania still seems to produce it (or at least: they still sell fresh stock), and indeed, although it is mentioned that Fuji ceased production, there's still fresh 110 in Japan, so maybe they didn't completely cease production?
     
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    Interesting, could you provide a link? Can't find anything in 'bay that comes close to 110 film slitter ("did you mean splitter?" No!) I've been thinking about "rolling" my own 110, but building the slitter myself has always held me back. Buying one sounds much easier... :wink:
     
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    Bear in mind that cut-down film is only useful is some 110 cameras, ie those where the perforations are not needed to cock the shutter and/or sense the film position. A slitter isn't hard to make, either to an existing design on the web or to your own design, depending on what odds and sods you've got kicking around.

    Steve
     
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    Some of you might want to switch over to re-usable cartridges in the Minolta cameras. You should still be able to pick up a 16-qt, 16MG or 16p or the earlier cameras for cheap. You can still get negative Super-16mm b&w film, so no need to split, if you don't want to. http://www.tapesuperstore.com/72blwhne200t1.html
     
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    I know at the drugstore lab I work at (London Drugs, as Western Canada chain) we still have a very small stock of Kodak Gold in 110 which sells once in a blue moon. I can't comment on whether or not they still make it, but at least at my store we've still got 4 fresh rolls!
     
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    kraker

    you want to search ebay for a seller " xkaes "
    he is the guy from the sub club and he sells nice film slitters.
    you might want to poke around subclub.org
    to see if your camera needs the perfs or can do without ...

    i have a pentax auto 110, and way back when, i bought a boatload
    of 110 film on ebay for cheep. i haven't looked in a while
    but i am sure you can find film there too ... there is a subculture
    (sorry for the pun ) of people who respool and i know there is a group
    for pentax users on yahoo ....
    i have been meaning to get a slitter, break open a few cartridges
    and slit some film for my 110, but i haven't gotten around to it
    too many irons in the fire so to speak ... :sad:


    good luck!

    john
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    Having printed a lot of 110, I can honestly say there is no point in shooting it other than a nostalgia trip or something.

    Embarassed to say that some of my baby negatives were on 110. I yelled at my parents when I found that out. . . ;-)

    IDK, even if it were cut from some slow slow film, you're stretching anything over a 5x7" print from it.
     
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    I only shoot it for the nostalgia. Maybe if we still had Kodachrome in 110, we could go larger than 5X7. I have heard of Kodachrome being made into an 11X14 from Kodachrome....
     
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    I've seen a shot from disk print film blown up effectively to 30x40 - but it received some very special treatment as it was being used as a focal point for a surprise retirement party for a Kodak employee retiring after 50 years of service.

    He was wearing a Kodak cap and a Kodak shirt in the photo, and for many years in western Canada he was known as Mr. Kodak.

    Matt

    P.S. this was long before digital
     
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    I have been reloading 16mm film into 110 cartridges for my Pentax 110. It needs perforations to work properly, but only on one edge, so single perf film (1R) is the type to get. I'd agree that there probably isn't much point using 110 for colour, but B&W is different. Just like the Holgas and Dianas you get "a look" that is different and can be used to your advantage. Rather than using Plus-X and fine grain developer I have been loading Tri-X and "embracing the grain". Once you learn how to crack open the cartridges it is a fairly easy task to reload them and they can be held together with sticky tape. 16mm has three times as many perforations as 110 so the Auto 110 has to be wound three times for every frame. The film only advances a little way but you need to do the full stroke to cock the shutter. I then fire it (with a lens cap on of course) and then repeat until I get to the next frame. Every so often I will wind again if it looks like it isn't lining up properly with numbers.
     
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    110 can be as perfect as 4x5 or 35mm or any other format.
    the lenses for my pentax auto 110 are as good as any other pentax kmount lenses
    i own. i have gotten some pretty good results ...

    some of them are in my online apug portfolio
    and in my gallery ...

    glad i could help kraker!

    john
     
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    Paul,

    Have you read this Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/markhahn2000/110_reload.htm?

    He sez, among other things, "One thing that you do have to remember is that factory loaded film is perforated to control the frame spacing and many cameras require these perforations to work correctly, but fortunately for us, most of the best 110 cameras do not require these perforations; notably Pentax 110 SLR's, Rollei A/E110's as well as the huge Minolta 110 SLR's (more details can be found at www.subclub.org). While these cameras will work without the perforations the frame spacing will not be perfect and you will probably only get 22 exposures out of a 24 exposure cartridge, but in my mind, this is really a small price to pay when it brings the joy of shooting B&W in one of these small wonders."

    He could be wrong, but thought I'd give you the link in case you had not read it. Slitting film, or using non-perfed 16mm film (if you can find it...try here: http://www.subclub.org/sponsors/goathil3.htm) might save you some hassle if he is correct.
     
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    Someone might want to tell UO because they started selling these little things last year. Basically it's a plastic lens and the 110 cartridge is the rest of the camera.
    [​IMG] Now they releases the fisheye version
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    The Flash
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    that is a pretty cool little device!
     
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    Thanks for the reminder of subclub 2F/2F, I reread that page and I think I now know where I went wrong. With perforated film the Auto 110 stops advancing the film when it encounters the perforation but allows you to complete the winding action to cock the shutter. Without the perforations (and I'll have to test this to be sure) it will continue winding the film for as long as you operate the lever, but after the usual two strokes the shutter will be cocked and can be fired. My original method worked, but actually made life harder than it needed to be.
     
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    Hi, Paul.

    Your original method is the standard method for using perforated 16mm film. Like you said, the film stops advancing if a perforation is reached, so you have to put the lens cap on and go through three more perforations before shooting again.

    I didn't mean to say that you were doing anything "incorrectly"; just that non-perfed film would not require you to do the lens cap dance.

    Here is where the Sub Club guy talks about it:http://www.subclub.org/darkroom/roll110.htm.

    "Your camera requires the 110 perforations for the shutter cocking. The perforations on 110 film are about 25mm apart while the perforations on 16mm films are about 8mm apart. If you use 16mm film, the cog in the 110 camera will catch the 16mm perforations and stop the film from advancing its full amount. You'll end up with overlapping images. To use the reloaded cassette, AFTER each exposure, you'll need to advance the film FOUR times instead of just once. You can use the numbers on the film counter as a guide. Specifically, take a picture. Advance the film. It will only advance 8mm and it will cock the shutter. Cover the lens of the camera and press the shutter release again. Advance the film again and repeat a total of three more times until the next number appears in the film counter. It's a nuisance, but it works. "
     
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    The problem for me was that because it didn't stop winding I assumed that the shutter wasn't cocked. I'll keep using the single perf film as I have another 380' of Tri-X to go, plus 100' of Plus-X but will load it the other way up in the cassettes.
     
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    i found a page on fujifilm's japan site which when translated says they stopped manufacturing super-g in 110 last fall and the last shipment will be made in sept 2009. did anyone ever confirm that kodak is done officially now as well? ferrania has also stopped according to frugal photographer...
     
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    I suppose that 110 (and probably APS eventually) might soon go the way of 126 and disc...I guess that the few "snapshot" photographers who still use these sizes will probably give up when the films are no longer available in their local stores, they're not likely to start ordering films by mail as do we enthusiasts.

    110 seems to have more-or-less disappeared from UK stores, though APS is still around. I've never used 110 seriously, though I still have a small stock of 126 for nostaligia! My wife still likes to slip the little APS camera in her handbag for "family" pics....she's a serious photographer like myself, (always borrowing my M/F kit), but, as she says, she at least then gets some real prints quickly ("the family will be grown-up before you get the prints done" :tongue: ).

    The problem when APS finishes will be mainly processing of remaining films...I can't think of an easy way of processing 24mm film.....at least 110 and 126 fit in standard tanks.