I'm looking into getting into LF with one of these two formats most likeley. What are some relatively easy to find, not too expensive, and somewhat robust cameras? My budget is roughly 1k, maybe 1.5k but I'd prefer to spend less (need to save money for film and processing equipment). I honestly don't know where to start..pricing cameras/lenses in 35mm/120 is easy but I'm totally lost with LF. Requirements and preferences: -I don't care about a viewfinder/rangefinder -Movements are not that important to me -I value portability and sturdiness -All I want is a normal (~210mm for 5x7, ~300mm for 8x10) Well with 8x10 it seems that one budget option is the Kodak 2D is that a good starter? I've also read that Deardorff cameras without front movements can be held more cheaply. I'm a bit cautious because these cameras are old. My 35mm/120 cameras are old too but I feel that these LF cameras are more fragile (esp. because of bellows)...are wooden folders fragile? I feel that one good knock and my camera is innoperative. I don't abuse my cameras but I do value robustness as I want to take it with me on the field. People obviously spend good money on wooden Deardorffs so part of me thinks this isn't THAT big of a concern.