6 x 9 cm film

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  1. zenrhino

    zenrhino Member

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    Any of y'all know where else besides J & C I can get 6x9 cm sheet film to fit my beautiful ICA Ideal?

    Or failing that, can someone give me a "for dummies" verison of how to cut down 4x5 in the dark without chopping a finger off?
     
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    What's the line? "Use The Force, Luke. Use The Force." Or, maybe the Zen admonition - "Become one with your cutter, Grasshopper." :wink:

    If you end up cutting your own, I'd suggest a two-step process - cutting one dimension and then placing the film back in the box before resetting the guide. Roller-style cutters are a bit safer than the guillotine type. I'd also suggest the cotton film-handling gloves. You could try the chain-mail gloves from your local rent-a-knight store, but they tend to scratch the emulsion. :wink:
     
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    I sliced the tip of my finger off doing something like this. Granted, I lost more blood than flesh but also ruined a bunch of film.

    Better to find a source or convert the camera to use something more readily available (can you adapt it to accept a modern roll film back?)
     
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    I just checked Adorama's website. Ilford HP4 is still available in 2x3 sheet. Not a bad price either.
     
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    Could you simply cut a roll of 120?

    I guess it depends on the tollerances of your back.

    Ian
     
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    6.5x9cm (2.55x3.54 inches)which is many times refered to as 6x9 is not the same as 2x3 (2.25x3.25)
     
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    Cutting down 4x5 for 6x9 is going to be awfully wastefull. If that doesn't bother you I'd personally build two jigs. One sized to cut the paper down to the first size you need. The second designed for the second cut. It means spending more money on the cutter setup but you won't be resetting the cutter all the time. That'll save you time and in the end film.
     
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    Try to get 9x12cm film - then you just need to cut it in half.

    Are you sure that the Ica Ideal takes 6x9cm film, and that it isn't 6.5x9?
     
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    Many moons ago I got ilford from BH. just a thought. I tried cutting 4x5 and it was really wasteful. I did the roller cutter and I did put the film back in the box after each cut.
     
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    The "6x9" ICA's I've seen over the years were all 6.5x9 which is why I posted the difference above. That's not to say that there couldn't have been other sizes.
     
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    I have a "L" shaped pc. of aluminum that my pro shop milled for me, it has a 1"step so that when I eventually attach it to my cutter all I need to do is cut and spin then cut again.I say eventually because I picked up a 5x7 field camera and just haven't gotten back to my 2x3 yet. Oh BTW there is a tool that will notch the corner of your cut film for you just like the factory sheets. Mine looks just like a single hole punch but has a corner stop and only nips a half hole from the edge of the film. Don't know who makes it mine is just stamped "JAPAN".
     
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    Thanks. I wouldn't have known.
     
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    All Zeiss plate cameras in that size use 6.5x9cm
    To my knowledge there is really no such thing as 6x9 sheet film
    Most holders need a film insert and these were also available in 2.25x3.25" for the American market.
    Most importantly the IDEAL requires a special holder-the ones for say a Maximar will not fit
    Mark
     
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    We've been through this with many customers who ordered 2x3 for what they called 6x9 cameras when they should have ordered the 6.5x9 size instead.

    I also do not know of any sheet film that is 6x9. The confusion I believe arises out of both 6.5x9 and 2x3 being generically referred to as 6x9.
     
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    Ok, stupid question -- will I need to cut/adjust it?
     
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    Im a bonehead, sorry. I meant 9x12.

    Doh!
     
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    My bad. I meant 9x12.

    I had just bid on a 6x9 Agfa when I posted that message and got my films confused.

    9x12.

    I see you guys have it on the website, but are out of stock, which is understandable given that there are probably about 10 people in the world using it, and all of us with Ideals bought off eBay for a song. =)
     
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    There are quite a few more - maybe 10 people in the US, and maybe 1000 in Germany! Until very recently, 4x5" film was relatively unknown in (continental) Europe and 9x12cm was used instead. I use quite a lot of 9x12cm, both in my Voigtländer Bergheil and my (4x5") Linhof Color. Then again I also use 13x18cm and 18x24cm, as well as 4x5" and 5x7"...
     
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    I don't understand why you would buy 9x12 from us so you could cut it in half to get 6x9 cm when your camera uses 6.5x9cm film which you can buy already cut to that size. Cutting 9x12 in half will not work even if you have 2x3 film adapters since 6x9cm does not equal 2.25x3.25 inches (2x3).