600 Sq. In. neg I made on Saturday

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  1. jimgalli

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    He. He. Couldn't resist the title. I made my first ever neg with a #8 Cirkut camera on Saturday. Thought I would share. Warts and all of course. Nobody expect the first try to be perfect. But I'm greatly encouraged. The portions that are good, are really good.

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    Click on the thumbnail to go have a look at full size. Yes Virginia, that's a thumbnail. The neg is 8" X 74"! Yep, there's banding and smeared areas. Work to do, but this was good enough to get me pretty pumped up!

    The view is of Tonopah Nevada. 270 degree rotation. In the print, the areas where the camera ran perfectly are beautifully sharp. I used a 450mm Red Dot Artar at f90. 1/2 sec. exposure. No meter used, sunny 16.
     
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    Jim- I am leaving in a moment to go to look for a 6 ft. Dell monitor. Nice photo on your 1st attempt.
     
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    That has to be one of the coolest things I've ever seen. Awesome work.
     
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    OH my Gosh! :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :D :cool:


    I had no idea an artar stopped down to f 90 had 270 degrees of coverage...does Kerry and Sandy know about this!
     
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    Looks pretty darn good to me, but what is all the white stuff on the ground and roofs? We don't have any thing like that right now. Truly haven't had a penny's worth all winter. Watched a Jackrabbit hopping across the prairie this morning carrying a canteen! Gonna be a dry summer I expect.

    Charlie.......................
     
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    I'm glad I don't live in Tonopah.
     
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    thats not snow, that's quartz matrix....there's lots of gold in them hills
     
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    Jim,

    Unbelievable, great shot. when I clicked on the "thumbnail" I got the "original" for a split-second and then back to "thumbnail". I have a lot of difficulty typing the word "thumbnail" for this image though. :confused:
     
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    Awesome Jim,

    I can even see the saucer and the men in black!

    Steve
     
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    sunny 16... you're taking a laugh at us :smile:

    What's the technical reason behind the banding?

    G
     
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    Great stuff Jim, I'm sure most don't realise how difficult these are to do.

    Clayton
     
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    I believe the banding is caused by non standard film. I had to cut 9.5" aerial recon film down to 8" and I think it was not playing off the spool correctly. So pressure would build up as the camera tugs on the spool, then it would give way, and pressure starts again. Also the camera is 85 or 90 years old and who knows when it was disassembled and cleaned lubed properly last. I plan to do that before the next shot. Maybe this weekend at "Shooting the West" in Winnemucca. jg
     
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    You gotta love a camera where you say, "I'll do this before the next shot". Not the next roll, not the next session--the next shot.

    The whole "singular" nature is cool.

    "OK, I got my shot for the day. Time to go home and spend a few days developing and printing my negative"

    Matt
     
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    As many have suspected --far right of photo--above the trestle bridge --looks very similar to those "sightings " of alien activity . that non descript white blurr ...so where is it you live? area what?
    best to all
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    By the way Jim,

    I assume Tonopah is an Indian name? Given where you live, probably Paiute? Any ideas on what it means?

    Matt
     
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    Jim,

    I am just sick with envy at all of these great old cameras you locate and find a way to use.

    Great looking first effort. But how do you plan to scan the negative to correct the banding?

    Sandy



     
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    "Tonopah" Indian for "no wood / no water" Fits well. Could also mean "hope great white father not make this the reservation because nothing here so he probably will"

    No plans to try to correct this neg. Ya get what ya get with one of these beasts. I'll address the issues and hope for better next time.
     
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    now just where in that photo is Tonopah?
     
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    So Jim, How big is the enlarger you're going to use to make a 16X148? :smile:

    hehehe
     
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    Tonopah certainly is the garden spot, isn't it? At least you don't have to worry about trees getting in the way....
     
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    The irony is that he had to scan it section by section and stitch it together. Which makes me go, "hmmm..."

    If you're going to do one-of-a-kinds like this Jim, step up to the plate and do it right - do something that you couldn't shoot stitched. Shoot a large group of PEOPLE. Like Eugene Goldbeck.

    Let's all go to Tonopah and stand in a circle around his Cirkuit camera. Then we can schedule a flyover by a B-2 Stealth or some UFO. Flying in a circle, in the same direction as the rotation of course.

    If some old Texas redneck could do it, our Galli can do it...

    http://www.panoramic-arts.org/subpage6.html
     
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    Well, I wouldn't exactly call the late Mr. Goldbeck a redneck ...:confused:

    I own 9 or 10 of his prints. I don't have a Circut, but it made me buy a Russian Horizon. :smile:

    Good luck, Jim.

    David
     
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    I'm just kidding. I only own his book and wish I had one of his prints. They are awesome.
     
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    ???

    How on earth did you scan that sucker?
     
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    Frank is right of course. I made 8 different scans and stitched them together in Photoshop. Actually a couple of saucers did go by but alas, they were going against the camera rotation and it didn't catch them.