800 speed film options?

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  1. snaggs

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    Have we seen any development here? Is there still no chrome option and basically Fuji 800z?

    Regards,

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    As far as I know, the only chrome options for ISO800 would be either Provia 400X or E200 pushed to ISO800.
     
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    Portra 800 is great....Even better than that is Ektachrome 200 (E200). It is easily pushed to 400, 800, and even if needed 1600. The results are great. I will try to post an example.
     
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    Basically, that is it. Don't forget Kodak's Portra 800, and really don't forget about Fuji Superia Press, which is cheap and good. Kodak makes an 800 consumer color neg film as well.

    Provia 400 looks entirely fine at 800, since it is a somewhat low contrast emulsion at 400, as far as transparency films go, anyhow. Transparencies push very well in general in my experience.
     
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    How does Porta 800 stack up against 800z?

    Daniel.
     
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    I like the Fuji better, but it is a personal thing. I think the Fuji handles foully-colored low light better. Shoot the same thing with each and find out for sure!
     
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    I was so impressed with Portra 400NC in 6x7 that I bought a roll of the Portra 800 to try. I will be very interested to see what the results are like.
     
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    I assume people who are pushing their slide film are developing it themselves? Is it done simply by increasing development time the way B&W pushing is? Will labs push it for you?
     
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    I recently used some of Kodak's Ultramax 800 on a trip, sometimes rating it at 1600 other times shooting it at 800 all developed normally. I thought it did pretty well. The PGI is the same as Portra 800, but the cost much lower (~$3.50/roll in 4 packs 24 exp).

    outdoor sample at 800

    indoor sample probably at 1600

    I also shot Kodak's HD400 rated at 800 a bit. Actually if I only needed ISO800, I shot the HD400 instead since the grain is much finer and the film has plenty of latitude for this. The grain on this consumer film is a smidge finer than the new Portra 400NC and likewise, its much cheaper (~3.50/roll in 3 packs 24exp). I shoot the new Portra 400NC in sheet film and have some in 120. Its nice stuff too.

    HD400 at 400

    HD400 at 800

    And as mentioned earlier, E200 and Provia 400X are both designed to push (with push processing which most labs offer for E-6)
     
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    E200 pushed to 800 is phenomenal, and devlivers excellent saturation and contrast. My lab here in Brussels offers to do any specialist items like pushing for an additional Euro1 on the development price. For negative film, I usually use Portra 800. K
     
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    Negative film, I was always impressed by Fuji Press800. Not sure if it's around anymore or has a new version out now. It was nicely grained, great colour and pushed amazingly well.

    I have a box of 40 or 60 still around, actually. Back when my newspaper shot colour neg film, that was the hands-on choice.
     
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    Doesn't Fuji make an ISO 1600 press film?
     
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    I have no idea what you mean by "PGI."
     
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    Print Grain Index. Kodak seems to use that measurement to indicate grain size for print films instead of RMS these days.
     
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    Good labs will push. My local lab charges an extra 2 euros, and you usually have to wait until the end of the day instead of the normal 1-2 hours. Yes, I consider myself lucky to live near this lab. :D

    If you want to do it yourself, it is done by increasing the time in the first (B&W) developer.
     
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    Yes, they do.

    I get better results (from a technical perspective) by overdeveloping the 800, though.

    The 1600 is very neat, but extremely clumpy looking.

    If you need the extra stop, though, it can help.
     
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    Against my better judgement I used a Fuji disposable camera loaded with some 1600 film and the results actually were kind of nice (yes I said it. The only time I have ever like a Fuji film!) since they had a neat vintage look to them.
     
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    I'm keen to try E200 pushed to 800 after reading this thread. I've had great success with Provia 400X at 800 and I'd like to see how the Ektachrome compares. Unfortunately, E200 in 35mm seems quite difficult to get hold of in the UK...
     
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    It can be quite hard to get here in the US as well. I could not find it ANYWHERE here in Sacramento, and ended up picking some up when I was down in Berkeley (about 90 miles away).
     
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    Any thoughts on how well Ektachrome 400x pushes to 800? I just acquired 400 feet of it, late '05 expiration, well stored...I'm going to have to figure out what to do with all of it...
     
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    All film pushes. It will be fine.
     
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    Why don't you just order it in the mail or online?
     
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    Can you recommend a good lab that processes 120mm film in Brussels? I'm looking for E6, C41, and BW processing? Additionally, any places you know of in Brussels that sells 120 film?
     
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    I think Portra 800 is fantastic.
     
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