A faint hope for film recognition from HASSELBLAD

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    Interesting... thanks for letting us know about it. I still shoot film but stopped looking at the Hasselblad web site and emails because they are totally oriented toward the H series. It is good to see that they still acknowledge the V system and film users!
     
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    They are moving back some of the production and service to Gothenburg, too. Good to see film being acknowledged.
     
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    I wouldn't hold out any hope. It doesn't suggest any renewed committment to film by Hasselblad, or any particular interest in film by the company. It's just a special interest piece designed to hit a nostalgic chord with a portion of their customer base. And note that they've managed to imply that there is just one Hasselblad photographer still using only film...
     
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    My thoughts exactly as I read the article. But then I re-read the title of this thread and decided that the title said it better than I could: "faint hope for film recognition" rather than 'hope for film revival'. Hassellbad has moved on from film and that is quite evident.
     
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    I personally dislike the heading - kind of makes film 'cute and kitsch'. I can't see how it would affect their digital sales by at least giving the V system the recognition it deserves. Would one to see more film-based stuff in Victor mag also.
     
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    Hasselblad has not been Hasselblad since they were bought by a scanner company. Fortunately the old iron still works.

    I no long visit the Hasselblad website either.
     
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    Actually, it was the other way around. Hasselblad bought Imacon.
     
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    Hasselblad don't sell film they sell professional cameras, and they stand a much better chance of surviving as a company if they manufacture a product that professional photographers (who are deserting Hasselblad film cameras in droves) want to buy.
     
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    How dare you let facts get in the way of emotion......:whistling:
     
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    I read so much wishful thinking on on this forum by members who have the childlike faith that if you want something badly enough it will happen, there's no sentiment in business Ashley, and recognizing and dealing with the World as it really is part of how companies survive.
     
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    Amen.
     
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    Why a company like Hasselblad would write such a cringeworthy headline baffles me.
     
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    To me, it does not look like Hasseblad has abandoned film altogether. Recently had a look on the current issue of "Victor" and 12 of the 42 pages are filled with an article on and photographs made by Rodney Smith, who according to Hasselblad, is still using film with the Hasselblad V-serie exclusively and is printing his B/W work traditionally, though he uses hybrid workflow for his colour work.
    Furthermore, Hasselblad has still listed the V-series and the high end scanners on their website, though the selection of lenses for the V-series has decreased. They have however stopped promoting film and analogue Hasselblads, that is true. Considering the fact that the V-serie has earned its merits through more than 50 years of existence now and there are plenty of bodies and lenses on the used marked, I think it simply would not make much sense to spend money on advertising the V-system anymore. People who want a Hasselblad are aware of their quality and will buy second hand anyway. It is nice that Hasselblad does still service them though. This and the fact that the V-series is still represented in media like Hasselblad Masters, Victor, Planet V, Hasseblad TV ect., if not to the extend of the H-Series, which is reasonable, since they need to sell the latter, shows that Hasselblad is still cherishing the legacy of the V-series and film.
     
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    Thank you, all of you , for your comments. No , I don't expect HASSELBLAD to relaunch their 500 and/or 200 series systems ( even if the 503 CW is still listed on their website ) . There are so many used cameras and accessories on the market and hopefully they can keep quite a few repair workshops alive. What I do wish is that the company can give some decent recognition to the fact that filmbased camera systems built their reputation and that analogue photography isn't dead even if big bad digital has taken over most of the market. Therefore it was good to see all the video links that you , Slixtiesix , presented here. I wasn't aware of them and they do give some hope.

    Karl-Gustaf
     
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    12 luglio 2012 alle 20:58 E' IMPORTANTE NON SOLO PER L?ITALIA MA PER TUTTO IL MONDO ANALOGICO
    Da luglio il gruppo Fowa-Nital distribuisce Kodak
    Milano, 28 giugno 2012.
    Il momento è difficile, è sotto gli occhi – e gli obiettivi – di tutti.
    Nel nostro comparto l’ultima notizia che mai avremmo voluto sapere è stata la chiusura della Unionfotomarket, l’azienda con cui Sergio Globo per decenni ha guidato approvvigionamenti e forniture fotografiche di moltissimi punti vendita italiani. Negli ultimi anni Unionfotomarket è stata anche il distributore esclusivo per l’Italia dei prodotti Kodak, un marchio che ha letteralmente inventato la fotografia, quella chimica, e che ha messo le basi della fotografia digitale di oggi.
    Ma ci sono anche le buone notizie. Esattamente un mese dopo la cessione dell’attività di Unionfotomarket ieri a Milano è stato sancito l’accordo di distribuzione esclusiva per l’Italia del marchio Kodak, tra Giuliano Bianchet, Kodak Cluster Business Director Consumer & Commercial Mediterranean, e Aldo Winkler, Chief Executive Officer del Gruppo Fowa-Nital.
    L’accordo, in vigore dal 2 Luglio, includerà la gamma di attrezzature Kodak Picture Kiosk, Drylab Kodak Apex e consumabili relativi, settori contraddistinti da una forte dinamica di business unitamente ai più tradizionali pellicole, carta e chimica fotografica nelle loro varie declinazioni e la gamma di batterie per utilizzi specialistici e non.
    Una notizia positiva in ogni senso, anche per Editrice Progresso che fondò la sua prima testata, il Progresso Fotografico, nel 1894 esattamente dieci anni dopo che Gorge Eastman iniziò la produzione delle lastre secche alla gelatina-bromuro.
    Oggi, a 118 anni dalla sua fondazione, Editrice Progresso edita una nuova testata, Classic Camera Black & White, e naturalmente una notizia come quella di ieri non può che “tranquillizzare” sia da un punto di vista editoriale che soprattutto di mercato la disponibilità della pellicola, in particolare bianco e nero.
    Il core business rimarrà naturalmente basato sui Kodak Picture Kiosk e i Drylab Kodak Apex, in grado di consentire al consumatore finale anche in modalità self service di stampare le proprie immagini, siano esse state scattate con una fotocamera digitale che con uno smartphone.
    Dall’accordo è esclusa la commercializzazione della pellicola cinematografica, le stampanti all-in one consumer inkjet e inchiostri correlati, oltre ad alcuni prodotti del Commercial Businesses.
    Aldo Winkler focalizzerà l’attenzione innanzitutto su un parco Kiosk e Drylab già istallati sul territorio nazionale, soprattutto nei punti vendita tradizionali, esistono poi realtà commerciali con estreme potenzialità, grazie anche alla forte pedonabilità, ma che a tutt’oggi non si sono dimostrate in perfetta sinergia sul concetto di proporre ai propri clienti anche la stampa delle loro immagini.
    Ma il gruppo Fowa/Nital distribuirà naturalmente anche tutta la gamma di pellicole, dall’intramontabile Tri-X, alle raffinate TMAX 100, 400 e 3200.
    A seconda dell’emulsione la disponibilità parte del classico formato 135 per passare al formato 120 e alla pellicola piana mentre le TMAX 100 e 400 sono disponibili anche nel formato 4×5 pollici.
    Giuliano Bianchet è stato molto esplicito in merito all’aspettativa di vita della pellicola fotografica, finché il cinema – dove Kodak detiene oltre il 90% delle quote di prodotto consumabile – utilizzerà la pellicola tanto per la realizzazione dei film che e soprattutto nella duplicazione per la proiezione a livello mondiale, la pellicola fotografica – che ha la stessa base di quella cinematografica – sarà disponibile sul mercato.
    E il giorno della digitalizzazione totale sia della produzione che distribuzione dei film, esistono molte altre realtà mondiali che producono pellicola cinematografica, in merito si veda sul numero di Classic Camera Black & White del prossimo settembre l’intervista a Felix Bielser della Punto Foto Group. Insomma, la geniale intuizione che ebbe Oskar Barnack quando progetto la prima LEItz CAmera costruendola attorno a uno spezzone di pellicola cinematografica si conferma ancora oggi vincente.
    Prima della sua morte, Gorge Eastman – che si tolse la vita con un colpo di pistola al cuore il 14 marzo 1932 – dettò questo breve messaggio: “Ai miei amici: il mio lavoro è compiuto. Perché attendere?”
    Sono passati 84 anni da quel giorno, ma il lavoro di George Eastman continua.
    tratto da RIBE70PHOTO di Riccardo Berti-
    Sig. Giulio Forti non si dovrebbero fare queste sparate “i mille giorni della pellicola 35mm”,solo per vedere l’interesse della gente,in modo, da parte sua di dedicare piu spazio all’analogico nella sua rivista, in base alla convenienza.Ci sono altri modi credo più corretti.Distinti saluti
     
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    scusate l'ultimo sfogo nei confronti del direttore della rivista fotografia reflex italiana, che dava per "morta" la pellicola 35mm tra 1000 giorni!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I definitely think Hasselblad did this not to pay homage to film, but to write a cute little story to promote their history and appeal to those people who gauge a company based on their historic value.
     
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    My knowledge of written Italian is quite weak, but from what I understand I think you might be posting to the wrong thread... or maybe even the wrong forum.
     
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    Can you write that in English , please ?

    Karl-Gustaf
     
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    I wish to be able to afford a brand spanking new 503CW before they stop making them. It would make a nice 'full circle' item next to my very old 500C.

    And an Imacon Flextight... It's the kind of machine that would make digital work fun for me.
     
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    analogic film

    But there are also some good news. Exactly one month after the sale of the Unionfotomarket yesterday in Milan has been sanctioned the exclusive distributor for Italy of the Kodak brand, including Giuliano Bianchet, Kodak Business Cluster Commercial Director Consumer & Mediterranean, and Aldo Winkler, Chief Executive Officer of the Group-FOWA Nital.
    The agreement, effective from July 2, will include the range of equipment Kodak Picture Kiosk Kodak Drylab Apex and related consumables, sectors characterized by a strong dynamic business together with the more traditional film, photographic paper and chemicals in their various facets and range of batteries for use and non-specialist.
    A positive news in any sense, even for Progress Publishing who founded his first journal, Progress Photography, in 1894, exactly ten years after George Eastman began production of gelatin-bromide dry plates.
    Today, 118 years after its foundation, Progress Publishing published a new magazine, Classic Black & White Room, and of course a story like that of yesterday can not "appease" is from an editorial point of view, especially the availability of market film, especially black and white.
    The core business will remain of course based on the Kodak Picture Kiosk Kodak Drylab and Apex, can allow the end user in a self-service to print their images, whether they were taken with a digital camera with a smartphone.
    Agreement is not included the commercialization of film, printers, all-in-one consumer inkjet inks and related products as well as some of the Commercial Businesses.
    Aldo Winkler will focus primarily on a park Kiosk and Drylab already installed throughout the country, especially in traditional retail outlets, then there are commercial realities with extreme potential, thanks to the strong foot traffic, but this has not proved in perfect synergy on the concept of offering its customers the printing of their images.
    But the group FOWA / Nital distribute course, also the whole range of films, dall'intramontabile Tri-X, to the refined TMAX 100, 400 and 3200.
    Depending on the availability of the emulsion formed part of the classic 135 for the move to 120 and to the film plane while the TMAX 100 and 400 are also available in size 4 × 5 inches.
    Julian Bianchet was very explicit about the expected life of the photographic film, until the film - where Kodak has more than 90% of the shares of consumable product - will use the film as much for making films that especially in the duplication for projection worldwide, the photo film - which has the same basis as that film - will be available on the market.
    And on the day of the digitization of both the total production of films, but there are many other companies in the world that produce film, you see on the number of Classic Black & White Room next September interview with Felix Bielser Photo of Point Group. In short, the intuition that when the project was Oskar Barnack the first Leitz Camera building it around a piece of film is still winning confirmation.
    Before his death, George Eastman - who took his own life with a gunshot to the heart March 14, 1932 - dictated this brief message: "To my friends: My work is done. Why wait? "
    It's been 84 years since that day, but the work of George Eastman continues.
    RIBE70PHOTO taken from Riccardo Berti-
     
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    excuse my writing
     
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    I'm pretty sure they stopped making them in 2008, you can still buy one new of course, but it's going to be old stock.