A little bit of luck and a good book gets me a Protar VII

Discussion in 'Large Format Cameras and Accessories' started by Ole, Sep 30, 2006.

  1. Ole

    Ole Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    9,281
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2002
    Location:
    Bergen, Norw
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    This is just a gloat, really...

    I noticed a lens in an ebay shop which shouldn't exist: A 285mm f:6.3 Zeiss Protar. The shutter looked too small for it to be a 285mm f:6.3, but too heavily repaired to identify (!). Pictures of the front showed "Protarlinse F=285mm" engraved on the bezel, pictures of the back showed no engraving at all.

    I got curious, and bought it.

    The engraving on the rear cell is around the edge, and says "Anastigmat 1/12,5 F=285mm", no serial number but the same patent number. Which makes it two cells of different age but same type.

    The only possible candidate is the "Serie VII" Doppel-Protar, two 285mm f:12.5 cells making a 160mm f:6.3 combined lens - and a far better lens than I thought I was buying (and the seller thought he was selling)!
     
  2. Capocheny

    Capocheny Member

    Messages:
    135
    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2005
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    Ole,

    Good to hear...

    Sometimes you do win a few! :smile:

    Cheers
     
  3. David A. Goldfarb

    David A. Goldfarb Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    17,978
    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2002
    Location:
    Honolulu, Ha
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    Always nice when that happens.
     
  4. Jerevan

    Jerevan Subscriber

    Messages:
    2,034
    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2004
    Location:
    Sweden/Germany
    Shooter:
    35mm
    The good book you mention - I assume it's not the King James Bible you are referring to. :smile: Is it the old "Ernste Hilfsbuch..." again?

    It's always nice to do a little detective work and bag a bargain or two. Good on you!
     
  5. Ole

    Ole Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    9,281
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2002
    Location:
    Bergen, Norw
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    Of course it's the "Photographisches Hilsbuch für ernste Arbeit" again. I forgot to mention it in the first post, but I'm glad to see that someone remembered!

    It's a really useful books when dealing with old German lenses, and far more reliable (when dealing wit hold German lenses) than the Vade Mecum. The VM is great for old British lenses, although the last one of those I bought was described wrong in the VM...
     
  6. Whiteymorange

    Whiteymorange Member

    Messages:
    2,385
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2004
    Location:
    Boston area
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Couldn't have happened to a nicer person, Ole.
    Use it in health! and post some of yoru experiments with it.
     
  7. Claire Senft

    Claire Senft Member

    Messages:
    3,242
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2004
    Location:
    Milwaukee, W
    Shooter:
    35mm
    Dammit Ole, you got just what you deserved. Justice, dear Lord, sweet justice.
     
  8. jimgalli

    jimgalli Subscriber

    Messages:
    3,571
    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2002
    Location:
    Tonopah Neva
    Shooter:
    ULarge Format
    Congrats to a deserving fellow. Enjoy.
     
  9. Ole

    Ole Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    9,281
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2002
    Location:
    Bergen, Norw
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    Thanks, all!

    Oh - did I mention that the glass is pristine? :D
     
  10. Jerevan

    Jerevan Subscriber

    Messages:
    2,034
    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2004
    Location:
    Sweden/Germany
    Shooter:
    35mm
    Well, some guys have all the luck, eh? :smile: Now, give us some photographs of it and with it!
     
  11. Mark Layne

    Mark Layne Member

    Messages:
    919
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2003
    Location:
    Nova Scotia
    Were you able to find a listing for 285mm? I couldn't find it in my catalogs, and my 6 element set has 29cm. It may fall between the 1891 and 1936 lists I looked at.
    Mark