Sunday night I spent about 4 hours in the darkroom. I printed a bunch of stuff on my usual cheap arista ultra edu rc vc paper but I was disappointed, mostly because the 6x7 negatives were too hard contrast wise to print well. (At least at my skill level) Switching to some other evenly lit beach wedding negatives I had scanned but never printed, I printed them on my cheap paper, and they looked great "I thought". Skin tones were nice and highlights and shadows nicely expressed. At the last minute, before I cleaned up, I tore open my package of Oriental Seagull, Warm tone, FB grade 2. This was my first FB and WARMTONE experience. I just stuck the paper under the enlarger and printed! Same Nbr 2 filter from the RCVC, same f/stop and time. WOW!! From the time the print came up in the developer I knew I was onto something. Everything just came alive on the print. Skin tones and the highlights in the white dress looked great! And I really like the weight on the paper, just feels substantial, unlike the plasticy feel of the Arista. And the warm tone! I never knew what I was missing. After washing it with about 100 gallons of water, I dried and flattened it. The next morning it looked even better. (Before you go at me, I've read (a la "The Print") about archival processing of FB paper but did not really care on this first one) I know I have a ton of stuff to learn, but at least I have an idea of how much better a well exposed negative can be on better suited paper. Two questions: 1. Is it practise to print graded paper with a grade two filter? (Grd 2 or no filter, I bet it does not matter) 2. Will selenium toner (which I just got also) strengthen or reduce the print's warmtone-ness. Or is Sepia toner just a stronger warmtone? Any hints appreciated. Steve.