Acros 100

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    Just wondering if many of you use Acros 100 film and what you like or dislike about it. Having read recent threads, I know many peoples favorite 100 speed films are Delta 100, APX 100, FP4 etc., but there is not much mention of Acros.

    I have been using it for a year now and I am fairly happy with it in Tmax developer 1:4. Does anyone have alternative developing info for using Tmax at a weaker dilution or any experience souping this film in Rodinal or Rodinal Special? (apart from Digitaltruth.com)

    Peter
     
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    Hey Peter!

    I love Acros and I do develop it in Rodinal. The key there is fairly slow/gentle agitation.

    For the medium format (120mm) Acros, I soup it in Rodinal 1:50 @ 68 degF for 11.5 minutes. I agitate once every minute...doing like 4 slow twist-y figure "8"s at the beginning of each minute. I wonk it on the counter to disperse any pesky air bubbles each minute after the agitation.

    Hope that helps! It's such a beautiful fine-grained film...almost delicate. I like it lots, too.
     
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    Yes I use a lot of Acros (120). Rodinal 1+50, quite mild agitation, 13 min at 20 deg C. If you want big enlargements, Acros in Perceptol (or Moersch EFG) is good too.

    The mid-tones can be beautiful. :smile:
     
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    Normal processing; 7 minutes 15 seconds, E.I. 50 in HC110 with a 1:66 dilution at 68F (70C).

    Again it will depend on your lenses as well. This was tested on a Hassy setup so if you are using a different brand results will vary. You are really goin to have to test for zone 1 and zone 8 to get your EI and dev time.

    But it is beautiful film.

    Kev
     
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    I am real happy with Acros and develop it in Clayton F76+ Developer 1:19 for 8 minutes (64 ASA), Constant Agitation in BTZS Tubes @ 68F (20C). I can get from N-4 to N+4 with this dilution which makes the film/developer combo very versatile for me. Although, this is probably not very applicable to your MF situation.
     
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    It`s great in Rodinal, XTOL, D76, Fuji Artdol and Pyrocat HD, and I love how it handles long exposures(no correction until 120 seconds, for longer times add 1/2 a stop!)

    I just wish it could be a bit cheaper in loose 4x5 sheets....
     
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    Made a post about it with pyrocat about a week ago.

    I'm pretty impressed with it and it's now my standerd iso100 film. Sharp, very very fine grain and gives good tonal separation. I rate it at EI80 and dev for 11mins at 20c in pyrocat 1:1:100.

    Thinking of trying it in XTOL for low contrast situations.
     
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    Acros is my main b&w night photography film (along with HP5). It has outstanding reciprocity characteristics and that's what I like best about it. It seems to have nice graduated tones, and fine grain.

    I've used it with D76 and Rodinal. I've experimented with all kinds of Rodinal dilutions and times (along with stand development), and for night exposures I've kind of settled on 1:75 at 70F for about 13 minutes with light agitation, and then let it stand for an extra 5-6 minutes.

    I'm also experimenting with F76+, and I like the results on my first 3 120 rolls thus far.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback everyone. Its interesting to get other peoples views.

    Peter
     
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    Lovely film with no grain so creamy as hell. Lacks acutance but souping in pyro devs sorts this out to an extent. No contest between this and TMAX100, which although the curves are supposed to be the same, looks plain souless for my money. I prefer trad films overall, but acros aint bad at all.......and it is in quickload at mucho££.
     
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    I develop Acros in Rodinal and in Pyrocat...different results, but both lovely. Acros is a wonderful film, and as mentioned above has fantastic recipricatory characteristics. It's my favorite of the "differently-grained" films; personally I'll take over Delta or TMAX any day.

    I wish Fuji would do two things: One: import it into the US in sheet film sizes but not in Quickloads. (You can buy it from a few places that import it themselves, but the price seems out of line.) Two: stop punching the little hole in the corner of the 4x5 film. I know someone, somewhere loves to use that little hole to hang their film to dry, but the *%$&^ hole is in the image area...and that's just wrong.
     
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    I like Acros - particularly when I want to use Quickloads. I tray develop it in Ilford DD-X, 1:4, for about 8 ½ minutes.

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    That's beautiful, Ralph! :smile:
     
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    I have only tried this film in quickload and 120, but it's a great film for night shots. I used one of these negs for my print exchange.

    I do love to use that little hole to hang my film to dry. :smile:
     
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    I'm very happy for you Diane...but the little hole still sucks. :smile: (Why, oh why, couldn't they have put it closer to the edge? It's not like wet film weighs that much.)
     
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    Yes the hole is in a bad place, I agree.
     
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    ACROS has replaced Delta 100 in my medium speed film arsenal. I love the creamy tones and fine grain. I develop it in my Phenidone/Vitamin C/Carbonate homebrew (see elsewhere in this forum for formulas that I've posted) for 7 minutes at 72 degrees or 7:30 at 70. I don't agree that it lacks accutance. I think the developer you use makes a difference.

    Larry
     
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    This thread inspired me to shoot a roll of Acros 100 that a shop owner gave me. I filled it with some outdoor portraits of my daughter. I developed it last night in Rodinal 1:50, 20c, 11.5min. They turned out well with an exceptionally clear film base compared to the Deltas and Tmax. Is this normal? Does it affect printing or contrast in printing?
    James
     
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    I've been using Acros since it became available and it's predecessor Fuji SS
    100 which you could only buy at Silverprint in the UK, imported from USA I
    think. I am also long time Rodinal user, it's my favorite general dev and you will good results with Acros.
    But if you want to see best Acros can do, have go with DiXactol Ultra
    using partial stand one bath method. The Negs are superb using DiXactol Ultra.
    Regards JON
     
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    Yep, that's pretty normal. It should not affect things in the darkroom. You will have to do test strips, of course (or whatever method you use to determine exposurte). But print them up...it will be worthwhile to hear your feelings on it!

    I think all the info we can get Peter, the better off we all are! :wink:
     
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    Just did my first Acros 100 4X5 last night. If it were any sharper, I'd cut myself handling the prints. I used my own stock soup of phenidone and ascorbic acid dissolved in propylene glycol diluted 1+50 with water and added 1.5 parts of triethanolamine (TEA) for activator. Developed for 8 minutes at 68F.

    The recipe has appeared several times, but just in case:
    Stock A:
    100 ml propylene glycol
    10 grams ascorbic or isoascorbic acid
    0.25 grams phenidone
    heat to about 150F to dissolve.

    Both Propylene glycol and TEA are obtainable at www.chenistrystore.com.
     
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    That didn't come out right. The stock is to be diluted 1+50. The stock is made with full strength glycol.
     
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    I wondered about this too, but when I did my "maximum black with minimum exposure" test, it came out about the same as the more colored film base from Delta 100 and 400. Maybe a little less time, but nothing to write home about.

    Larry
     
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    Hi

    I tried it for the first time a few weeks back. It was also the first film I have developed since being in shorts, and the first time I'd used my Yashica LM.

    I realy like it - lovely tones, little or no grain, wonderful latitude, and nice and sharp too.

    I developed it in Rodinal 1+100 for 18 minutes with agitation for 15s for the first three minutes, then one inversion every three minutes.

    Couldn't have asked for a better first time result. The only problem is that it is not as readily available in the shop I usually go to as some others.

    Paul
     
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    Whow, I haven't had a chance to turn the computer on since Friday and this morning I discover all this feedback. I wish I had found apug.org years ago.

    Thanks all,
    Peter