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Discussion in 'B&W: Film, Paper, Chemistry' started by Peter Schrager, Mar 4, 2005.

  1. Peter Schrager

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    Has anyone had a chance to try out the Adox Vario-G paper from J+C? It sounds interesting but would like to hear if someone has used it yet.
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    Yes, I have just recently printed on Adox Vario-G paper for the first time. I love this paper. So far I have printed on various types of Ilford, Forte, Adox, and JandC Polywarmtone Classic. Adox is my favorite "neutral" paper although the image is somewhat warm. Adox has a real classic old-time look to it. Give it a try and you can see if you like the look. (I don't have a scanner, so I can't show a sample).

    Best of luck,
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    Michael- The J+C and Forte are the same paper except I believe the J+C is the warmtone plus. Ilford is good paper but has no real personality. I usually print on the Forte V which is a neutral paper but with alot of personality. The Adox sounded really interesting. I'm going to give it a try out too. Thanks very much for the reply.
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    Peter,

    If Adox is the same as Forte, then I am quite surprised. I printed the same image on each paper on the same night with the same chemicals and the images look different to me and to the teacher and students in my photography class. The Adox seems to show more detail (less muddy compared to the Forte). The Adox was also more "warm".

    I just looked and the Forte paper that I used was Forte Elegance (neutral tone). This could account for why the images looked so different on each paper.

    Can someone confirm that Adox is, or is not, the same as Forte warmtone.

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    Michael
     
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    Michael-maybe Iwasn't clear:the J+C polywarmtone is reputed to be Forte. I pretty sure that's what I said above. This has been fairly common knowledge here on APUG. Adox is another brand. O.K? Just wanted to find out a little bit about this paper from some people here before I take the leap. It sounds like it is nice paper. One has to try it for themselves to know.
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    I just bought some of the Adox Vario but havent used it yet. It is EFKE's VC paper.
    Some time back you mentioned Polytoner and Agfa Classic, What concentration do you prefer?

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    Mark-please post back after you have tried the Adox. Sounds like it may have potential. For using the Polytoner you must be very specific with time and temp. I have been using 3 oz./gallon of water @70 degrees. Time is 3 minutes. Make sure to put the print in HCA before and after toning. I also found that Ilford Galerie did well with the polytoner; best to my eye. I only had matte paper but it is very beautiful. I'm kind of excited about the Kentmere bromide paper. This could be a GREAT paper. We'll just have to wait and see. The biggest problem besideswhich paper will take polytoner is that it falls out of solution. It seems to keep fairly well for a while and then poof it -falls out. I have no explanation. Maybe someone here can explain it. I never tried it while Kodak made it. As it's not made anymore I have nothing to compare it to.
    Regards, Peter