Agfa AVIPHOT PAN 200 PE1

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  1. alxsav

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    Hello people, some time ago I bought a roll of 24cmX150m (yes, metres) of AVIPHOT PAN 200 PE1 or this what it says on the label, expired during the '90s.
    This !BhfPz6gBWk~$(KGrHqIOKjQEry)gYb6dBLJWTm8bd!~~_1.JPG looks like mine.
    1) This film is thick! Very thick!
    2) While it says 24cm on the label the film's width is only 22cm or so.
    3) I exposed and developed in paper developer (neutol) with no image coming. Some pieces came black, some did not (depended on the exposure?).
    4) After fixing in plain hypo fixer, the base is a semitransparent red. It is so redish that looks like a safety filter!
    5) Tried bleach-fixing in C41 BLIX (!) with the same red results.
    Does anybody came across this film? It is supposed to be a quite normal bw film (ok, with the PE1 thicker base) the same with what rollei is cutting to 135 and sells. Do I have some other kind of film with the wrong sticker on it? Does it need some kind of special processing (agfa's datasheet says not)?
    Best regards from Greece!
     
  2. AgX

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    Actually that thickness of 0.1mm of your film is the same as type 120 (0.13mm would be that of type 135 film). It could be considered thick only in relation to its thinner version (0.06mm) used in spacesaving aerial rolls.
     
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    alxsav, I got a roll of 150 m of Agfa AVIPHOT PAN 200 PE1, and 400 and 80 for 35 mm ( Agfa test).
    Like the Agfa AVIPHOT 200 and 400 are black dorsal layer is easily cleaned in solution.
    Agfa recommends that before developer wash the film to remove this layer will contaminate developer.
    I used a solution of sodium carbonate 10 g / l, then washed film.
    It worked well in Kodak D 96. Fog is small (0.06).
    :AVIPHOT PAN 200 documentation
    :Aviphot Pan 200 PE1 is a panchromatic negative film, coated onto a transparent polyester base
    providing excellent dimensional stability. Thickness of the polyester base: 0.10 mm (.004”).
    :Aviphot Pan 200 PE0 is a similar film coated onto a 0.06 mm (.0025”) polyester base.
    :Aviphot Pan 200 PE0 AR, coated on a 0.06 mm (.0025”) polyester base is designed for LED
    exposure through the back.
    May be that your film is Aviphot Pan 200 PE0 AR?
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/21121448@N06/5713454489/

    George
     
  4. alxsav

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    The sticker says PE1 but the thickness is more like a rc paper than a film. It is so thick that once that I cut a strip of it, I could not roll it on a 120film spool.
     
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    My Agfa AVIPHOT films of 80, 200 and 400 had not keycode (04.2010).
    Probably neither your material is not something printed on the film edges.
    My films 200 and 400 were black dorsal layer, greenish black.
    Removal of this layer think it's important for material processing.

    George
     
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    Seems you bought a thick pig in a false poke...
     
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    Eh , when there is no money to buy new film, you need to restart to reinvent strangest things :smile: