Agfa Clack and FP4

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    Hi

    I'm shooting FP4 with my Agfa Clack. I has a fixed shutter speed of 1/30 and to apertures around f/8 and f/11. Which speed should I rate the film?

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    Do you really think the only shutter speed is that slow? More likely 1/60 sec. The old sunny 16 rule applies to ASA (ISO film speed). In full sun at f/16 shutter is 1/ ISO film speed.
    If you have f/11 at 1/60 second that would mean the film speed needs to be ISO 30. If you use a 2X factor yellow filter the film speed would be ISO 60. FP4+ will work at 60. You might want to reduce the developing time by 10 %.

    What is an Agfa Clack?
     
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    my clack is definitely slower than 1/60 - I have to be really careful to avoid camera shake.... I use delta 100 in pyrocat hd (about 12 mins with semi stand method) and get good negs. With these fairly uncontrollable cameras, I tend to not think in film speeds as they can be unhelpful ... just choose a compensating developer and work out a time that gives usable negs. With fp4 in a clack, try dilute perceptol (1:3) at 24 deg for roughly 13 mins (1 inversion every 30 secs) and see what you get - fine tune from there. or perhaps work out a time for some very dilute rodinal (1:100)

    here are some of mine http://www.leontaylor-photo.co.uk/vintage.htm


    good luck :smile:
     
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    Hei, Morten!

    With only two apertures and one shutter time I think "rating" the film is somewhat overambitious... Sounds like it should be exposed by daylight, is all I can say.

    When I could hear that the shutter on one of my old cameras should have been cleaned a long time ago, I exposed by guesswork and developed in half-strength FX-2 for 45 minutes without agitation. All the negatives on that roll wer usable!
     
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    I saw this camera and another called a "Click". Would be nice to collect both and have "Click and Clack".

    http://www.dayburner.com/Collection_Click.html

    I don't know if they were released in the US. Maybe under different names?

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    Thanks!

    I have developed my rolls yesterday in Rodinal 1:100 for 21 min (as recommended for ISO 64). The negs were quite nice. Minor adjustments may be needed, but I'll find out when I am going to print them.
    I have made a nice set of 8 contact prints on 4x5 Agfa paper. Nice touch!

    Morten
     
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    Agfa Click-1

    I actually still have my Agfa Click-1 which I recently dusted off and tried out with a roll of APX-400. The results were good although I wasn't expecting much. The Agfa Click-1 was the first camera my parents bought for me back in the late 50's for a birthday gift and I carried it with me for quite a while. I found it again about a year ago and just recently opened it up and realized that it took 120 film. I use it instead of a buying a Holga.
    The Click-1 is slightly different from the Clack from the look of the websites but you may be right about it being the North American model.
     
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    No, the Click has been the 6x6 version of the 6x9 Clack - an affordable (=cheap) massproduced camera, designed for contact printing the developed film.

    IIRC the US name of the Agfa Clack used to be Agfa (or Ansco?) Weekender.

    In Germany the Agfa Clack has been established as the better Holga - cheap (at less than 5 Euro) and able to produce stunning results (unlike the Holga). It has a single meniscule lens and the film is lead in a curved base to compensate the optical problems of that single lens. That works pretty good.

    With its single shutter speed ("M", about 1/30th of a second) and the f12 or f13 lens (plus a optional yellow filter) it has been designed for Isopan F or FF film, rated at EI50. For that reason some people fed it with Fuji Velvia and got nice results on their light table.

    Caveat: addictive.

    Roman