Ansco Formulas/PDFs

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  1. tjaded

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    Hi all--
    I picked up a cool little booklet today called "Ansco Formulas for B&W photography." I've started scanning them and made them into pdfs. If you have any interest in these, feel free to download them from this link:

    http://www.mattosbornephotography.com/Ansco/

    If anyone finds this stuff interesting I can scan/post the rest of them. Actually, I've always thought APUG should have a library of all kinds of this stuff/manuals/etc. for everyone to reference. Anyway, hope you like them...I found it interesting.

    Adios,
    Matt
     
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    I like the idea and would love the pdf's but they are huge! 4 megs for 1 page is a bit excessive. Maybe you could scan them as B&W line art. This would reduce the file size significantly.

    Thanks for the efforts!

    Eric
     
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    And are you sure about... ahem... copyright?
     
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    Ansco/GAF/American Agfa Recipes

    There is an APUG Library:

    http://www.apug.org/forums/articles.php

    I posted many of these Ansco/GAF/American Agfa Recipes as text in the APUG Chemical Recipes (see above URL).

    Sean is in the process of restoring additional recipes from the APUG archives.
     
  5. Jim Noel

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    I like the idea, and prefer the pdf's. It only takes aboout 4-5 seconds to download each one. Keep up the good work.
    Thanks
     
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    I made some smaller ones. Hopefully they are still of use...
     
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    Cool beans!
    now there is the APUG recipe page, you can contribute there.
     
  8. Ian Grant

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    Matt, it would be useful to scan the cover, and also give the date of publication. The book is almost certainly out of Copyright now.

    There are naming issues with Agfa Ansco, Ansco, and GAF, formulae because many of them are different to the German Agfa, and also Orwo, formulae of the same number, so when listed clarity is needed.

    Ian
     
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    Done!

     
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    It isn't. Copyright in most countries runs for life of author + 70 years, so a book published in 1950 will always still be in copyright.
     
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    Yes you're right Ole.

    However the contents of the GAF/Ansco formula book have been reproduced so widely over the last 70 or 80 years that any risk of running into copyright issues would be negligible.

    This book was published by a now defunct company, the contents were originally published by the German owned Agfa Ansco company, which was seized by the US Government during WWII and very conveniently never returned to the parent company after the war ended.

    There would be more of an issue if the material was being used for financial gain, instead of an academic resource for photographers.

    Ian
     
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    I have a decent collection of articles from the 1940's on emulsion making and chemistry, but they're all still in copyright. I'd transcribed a large part of one of the articles before I posted on APUG asking if it would be ok to share, under "fair use", and was suggested likely not. I'd love to share the information, personally, but that's how it goes I guess.
     
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    I'd be content if you just put together a list of citations -- i.e., Author, title, publisher, etc.

    Ed
     
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    My copy of: FORMULAS FOR PHOTOGRAPHIC USE
    AGFA
    Was copyrighted in 1939 by
    AGFA ANSCO CORPORATION
    BINGHAMTON,N.Y.
     
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    How about scanning and posting the notch codes?

    Ed
     
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    I did a search for this book and found that there is a guy with an Ebay store selling "reprints" (can we say photocopy) for $10. :rolleyes:
     
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    Mine's an original publication, not a copy.
     
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    This thread should be under general B&W. It does not pertain to emulsion making, unless I missed something...

    Ole, can you move it to the proper place?

    Thanks - Kirk
     
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    You're absolutely correct Kirk, I just didn't notice.

    Moved.
     
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    Yeah, you should have scanned the pages as B&W line art maybe in the neighborhood of 800dpi. These are grayscale which is harder to read and keeps the file size high.
     
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    The Ansco plant in Binghamton had been a vacant lot for several years now the last owner was Kodak who tore it down, I think nobody cares..EC
     
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    And that's why no-one will ever be interested in the copyright of a GAF 1950 publication :smile:

    Ian
     
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    "The Ansco plant in Binghamton had been a vacant lot for several years now the last owner was Kodak who tore it down, I think nobody cares..EC"

    I believe the last user of that plant was a company called Anitec who made film and plates for the graphic arts. They were swallowed up by Kodak a long with Polychrome. Anitec I do believe was the old GAF company. So Kodak would own those copyrights.