Any guesses?

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  1. ChristopherCoy

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    I just bought this off of regretsy. Its a vintage Kodak Brownie Hawkeye (pre flash model 1949-1950). I contacted the owner, made a discounted offer, and they agreed. So I bought it. It came with an exposed roll of film inside.

    Any guesses on what type of FILM it might be, and if you think its still viable for development?
     

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    Looks like it's part of a daylight loading development tank. If it is you're missing the top taht makes it light toght.

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    Looks like the back of an old roll film camera to me but then I haven't seen all the processors out there.
     
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    Its actually a Brownie Hawkeye camera. The roll of film is inside. I guess the seller took the back off to take a picture. I'm hoping that the paper has stayed tight enough to keep at least a frame or two from being ruined.
     
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    8mm/16mm film duplicator to 620?
     
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    I would give it a shot. you should get something out of it.
     
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    I guess my original post was misleading and confusing. I bought a Brownie Hawkeye camera. This would be the front part of the camera, where the film gets loaded.

    My question was about the film that's currently in the camera? Does anyone know what kind of film it is by looking at it, and if you think its viable for development?
     
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    I'm thinking it is Kodak Tri-X, judging by the colors of the paper and the green printing.
     
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    Go ahead and load the film onto a reel and lockit into a processing can. Then you can check the entire backing paper for indicators of what it possibly could be. If you still cannot figure it out, Rodinal 1+100 for one hour stand development at lower than normal temp should give a reasonable negative.
     
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    I take it you don't actually have the camera yet? When you get it, the roll of film should identify itself; i.e., the paper backing is labeled. It looks like a 620 roll of something.
    That can be processed on a 120 reel.
     
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    No I don't. Its being shipped to me today, so I should have it by Friday. I actually bought it because the camera was in such great shape, and clean as a whistle. Through subsequent conversation with the seller, I found out that she purchased it at an estate sale a few years ago, and used it as decoration on her shelf for the last few years. She didn't even know the film was in there until she took the camera apart to photograph it for her etsy listing.

    I'm hoping it is at least B&W film and not color. If its color I'll have to send it off to somewhere.....
     
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    Why don't you snip a piece and process it as Tri-X?
     
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    If it is "prehistoric" colour film, pre c-41 in other words, then you are probably better off processing it as b+w anyway. It does look rather like slightly older Kodak b+w backing paper. When the film is in the tank you will maybe find more details on start of the backing paper.
     
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    If I don't miss my guess the pattern looks like Kodacolor-X which is a C-22 Process Colour Negative. you can proably fake the formula, although it does need a couple of chemicals that are not in c-41.

    Save the spool as 620 spools are hard to come by, you can re-roll 120 on a 620 spool, although I find on some of my 620 cameras you can cram in a 120 spool as long as you use a 620 spool on the takeup side.
     
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    Take it out of the back and look at the markings?!
     
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    Yep, most likely Kodacolor-X (c-22) or could be Ektachrome-X. (E-4)

    Process in cold C-41 (65*f) for 20 minutes and then double time in C-41 bleach and fixer (or blix).

    People have been getting surprising results this way and color too.
     
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    Looks like the backing paper for a roll of Verichrome Pan.
     
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    Tri-X or Early Kodacolor - Definitely NOT Verichrome or Verichrome Pan.
    Once you have the camera in hand, the type of film may be visible on the hidden side of the backing.
     
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    I'm hoping that it will be delivered today, but it's coming from Canada so I'm not sure.


    According to the Canada Post website... "Item has been received at the delivery office in the destination country"
     
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    I'm home from work, and it's here.

    It's Kodacolor II, and says C-41 process.

    Where do I start? Is this something I can develop on my own?
     
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    It's nice and new :smile:.

    That is the current colour negative process - same as Portra or Ektar 100.

    I would say send it to any lab that does 120 film, except you want to be sure to get the 620 spool back.

    You could transfer it to a 120 spool, but that can be a bit finicky, and would be best if you did a double transfer (in order to make sure that the "exposed" tab is on the outside).