Any underground chem smuggling to NZ?

Discussion in 'B&W: Film, Paper, Chemistry' started by Sean, Jun 15, 2004.

  1. Sean

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    Well, getting a bit down over the chemistry situation here in NZ. I decide I would like some thiocarbamide. Seems easy enough, about 6bucks for 100grams in the U.S.

    STOP!

    *We can not ship this internationally*

    Every door slammed in my face. So I source some thiocarbamide in NZ from a chem distributor. They want $158NZ dollars and it has to be 500grams.

    I fear I am going to face the same issues with other chemistry as well (pyro, amidol, etc)

    not sure what to do? :sad:
     
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    Who did you talk to? Michal Jacobson at Artcraftchemicals ships to me, and I get the feel NZ is similar to Mexico and it`s chemicals laws, here I cannot get sodium carbonate unless I have a special permit from the govemerment, nevermind that I can go and buy bicarbonate for baking and make it carbonate..lol....
     
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    This sounds promising, I'll try them and see. Thanks for the tip!
     
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    And I thought the guys over here were paranoid! Carbonate!
    (but then triethanolamine, sodium sulfate, etc... are black listed)

    Jorge O
     
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    whew, the artcraft guy says he can ship whatever I need :smile:
     
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    It is not paranoia chara, it is just another way from extracting money from you......they could not care less if I buy nitroglycerin, but I do have to have this permit which obviously costs money...
     
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    down here in Wellington I buy through Artcraft and haven't had problems so far. I tried that guy in Canada but he quoted outrageous shipping charges so I gave him a miss.

    Some stuff you can buy locally if you know where to look. I have a few things in bulk if you're after anything in particular, let me know.

    Clayton
     
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    Thanks Clayton, at this stage I'd like some thiocarbamide, pyrocat HD, and Amidol formula. But not sure you'd have any of those?
     
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    Amidol, Amidol??? You heretic, you have been assimilated and crossed over to the dark side you traitor!....... :tongue:

    I better say I am just kidding before Michael jumps down my throat... Looking forward to them azo prints Sean...
     
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    The chemist says to sell these chemicals he needs a special permit (some US$ 700/year) plus lots of red atape...
    Yeah, there are many ways to skin a fool (make it millions of fools).
    So, no triethanolamine, but they sell something called 'neutralizer'. And you know what, it works in a triethanolamine based formula...

    Jorge O
     
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    Sean, I bought my Pyrocat HD as a liquid from lotus viewcamera in Austria. I understand that Bostick and Sullivan also sell it as a liquid.

    I did some reserach a while back, and apart from Amidol and Pyro I could buy most things in NZ.
     
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    Exactly, same thing here.....I dont know the price of the permit, but heck I can get the stuff in the mail, and nobody knows...