Anyone use a JOBO 3025 expert drum for 8x10 film?

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  1. Pasto

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    I've been considering a Jobo 3005 drum to process 8x10 color film. I can't seem to find one under about $600. I've just come across a jobo 3025 drum for 8x10 film that I didn't know existed. It seems to have been discontinued a long time ago, and holds the sheets on the inside perimeter of the drum in a way very similar to how Jobo print drums hold the paper. This of course is very different to how more current Jobo expert film drums hold the film.

    Does anyone have experience with this 3025 drum? It could save me a lot of money :smile:

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    I think they are print drums but can be used for film. I have one like that - forget the model but it's something like 3024 or 3025. I roll it in the sink and it works very well.
     
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    It is a film drum, long discontinued, less expensive that the later version, on ebay. Should be ok.
     
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    The 3025 Expert drum only develops 2 8x10 films at once whereas the 3005 develops 5. If you can live with this limitation, then the 3025 should be fine for you. It also explains why the 3025 is cheaper.
     
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    Thanks. In fact I was curious as to how it is different from an expert print drum like the 3062 or 3063 which I have. I thought it may be designed differently to allow more chemistry to contact the back of the film. Although the expert print drums also have ridges that allow some chemistry to reach the back of the paper. I just havn't seen how the 3025 is designed on the inside. I'm wondering if I can use the expert print drums instead. It's just that at $15 a sheet of portra 8x10 I'm not in the mood of experimenting at this point....
     
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    The 3025 has special film holders inside, these are real slide in slips, along the inside, and are exactly spaced for 2 sheets of 8X10 plus there is room for 2 control strips of 35mm film.
    The holders are much heavier duty then the print ridges.
    Basically other then these holding strips inside it is the the same as the 3063 or any other jobo print drum.
    You can also load 2 sheets of 8X10 in the 2830, which is by far cheaper then a 3025...
     
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    Yes.
     
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    OK, now I'm beginning to see the picture. So the inside ridges of the 3025 are secifically designed to accept and hold 8x10 inch film. This seems like an advantage. The space for a control strip is also a big advantage for me as I always run a control strip before processing any film. I thought this was a weakness of the 3010 tank for 4x5 sheet film. I had to tape the control strip to the inside of one of the film silos.

    A thought. My print drums came along with 2 different varieties of clips. I never used them. I attached a picture of the clips and another of the clips installed in the 3062 expert print drum just for demonstration. I assumed these ar for help in positioning the paper in the dark, although the function of the one with a triangular shape has always excaped me. I'm now wondering if the circular clip could serve a similar function for film??
     

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    I process 8x10 film in a 2530 print drum and I use the round clip to keep the film from coming loose in the drum. I did a test sheet to see if there were any marks on the film from the clip and I haven't found any, so I use it all the time now.
     
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    Thanks Greg. Have you tied both B&W as well as C41?
     
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    Yes, both. No problems with either.
     
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    That's great news Greg. Do you use control strips for C41, and if yes how do you fix them to the inside of the drum?

    Just for your info, I just received a respons from Klaus at www.fotolaborservice.de in Germany. He's sold me parts for my Jobo over the years. He'll sell me a new 3005 for 339,60 Euro including shipping. That's about $440 and at least $300 less than a used one on ebay. Go figure....