APUG Zero Image Pinhole Camera Users Group

Discussion in 'Pinhole Photography' started by raulpc, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. raulpc

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    Hello all
    Thought you would like to know I have just created a group here about this fantastic set of cameras, the Zero Image... my aim is to congregate users working with these cameras, all about it, and specialy to show and discuss photographic work done with it... as far as a computer screen can display the beauty we see on paper and feel in our fingers...
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    all the best
    Raul
     
  2. gnuyork

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    I have the 612 and the 4x5. I have not used them much, but look forward to shooting them more. From my first roll with the 612. It's OK, but I don't think I utilized the format to the fullest potential.

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    I'll give a chime too for the Zero Image 6x9 multiformat (which I'm partial to in 6x6!).
    Got an image up on WPPD 2010.
    Have got some subsequent Provia 100F images but only 3 scanned so far. Getting more done soon.
     
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    Just got a 6X9 last week, loaded for bear but no bears around here. Gotta look for something else.
     
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    take up reel on zero image 35

    Hi:

    I just got my zero image 135mm pinhole. Having a bit of trouble with the takeup reel [re-used 35mm cannisters], which stick and are hard to wind once about 1/4 of the new film is wound in. Any suggestions?
    thanks!
    gerry
     
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    Hey Bill, very nice photos. I have the Zero Image multi-format thing, and I enjoy playing with it. I mostly use the 6x9 format. Question for you: how did you get your Hindu temple photo so sharp? All of mine so far are "dreamily soft".

    I have some WPPD images also; I'm in Ohio. I'll post links later.

    TIA,

    -- Mark
     
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    That is a great idea. I have three Zero image cameras, 6x6, 4x5 and 6x12F (multiformat - kinda over kill with my 6x6 laying around now)
     
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    I have one that's been sitting for a few years waiting for me to get the courage up to try it....
    *blush* I know I need to just go for it. This may be the encouragement I needed!
     
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    ^^
    Jessica, remember what has been said of pinhole cameras: "out of nothing, comes something, and then some." Don't keep putting it off!

    I get cracking with the printing and framing with the majority of images from my 6x9 multiformat (I am smitten though by the 6x6 square format...). And when bushwalking, a pinhole camera will garner more curiosity and amazement at camp then any fancy digimon.
     
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    thanks! I'm going to locate it in my messy office and try it out!
     
  13. Perry Way

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    I love my 4x5 Deluxe! by far, my favorite camera since I shoot with it most often. Those who haven't yet, might want to give a try with some Adox CHS Art 25. Yes, the slow speed film. Yes.. give it a try. You will be amazed. I am not joking. It is very well suited for pinhole work. On my 4x5 in 50mm mode, super bright day in Big Sur, water reflections and high noon sun is about a 5 second exposure. 10 seconds for overcast slightly dimmer. There is very little reciprocity on this film so it starts becoming a faster film in dimmer situations. Compare to the heavy reciprocity of FP4 and HP5 of up to I think it is 5x, Adox CHS Art 25 max is 1.5x on the reciprocity so on sunset photos 2 minutes with the Art 25 is about the same as FP4 and just under the HP5. On top of the reciprocity advantage, you get maximum gray tonal scale, the whole spectrum with great clarity. If you develop with Rodinal at 1:25 you get enough grain to see the hint of it with a grain focusing scope, but you still cannot see any real defined grain. This is enlarged to 11x14 I'm talking. If you develop with the preferred developer Adolux ATM 49, you get absolutely no grain at all. You cannot see an ounce of it anywhere. So, it is a pain in the ass to focus while enlarging but man, the quality of the negs is astounding. The clarity of the gray scale is just unspeakable. I have been enlarging the Art 25 shot in pinhole cameras mainly on Ilford FB Matte. I tried some Kentmere Fineprint the other night and got more clarity than I've ever seen in a pinhole photograph, but I still like the depth and luster or glow of the Ilford FB Matte for pinholes and the Art 25 is a great boon for that if you've got any subtle gradient tones like moving water for instance.
     
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    Don't think I have a secret. Solid tripod and care taken when opening the shutter (standard model with no cable release.)

    Bill Barber
     
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    Proud new owner of a multi format Zero Image camera. Love the fit, feel and finish of the camera. Shot three rools in it and need to work on my exposure compensation concerning reciprocity in longer shots. Will have to print and scan the prints because I'm not too fond of my flat bed HP doing neg scans but I have some ready to post. Far more dynamic range on the film than the scanner can handle.

    It draws a great deal of interested looks. Will shoot my forth roll of B&W this week and see if any leaves hold color on the trees so I can run a roll of color in it.

    What I really want to try is still lifes of flowers and other beautiful things as the snow starts to fly this winter. Anyone tried any table top work with this kind of camera?

    Lee
     
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    Samples from my first rolls in the Zero Image Multi-Format camera

    Here are some of my images scanned from negs with my cheapo HP flatbed.

    Lee
     

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    I like the last photo a lot! :smile:
     
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    From the 612F
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    [​IMG]

    Thanks for the reminder to get out and use it more!
     
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    Hellol,
    I hve a Zero Image 2000. It has functioned as an ornament. Since I have not used it ,perhaps some advice.Is there a preferred film to use? I shoot black and white.

    Howard Dvorin
     
  21. Perry Way

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    I've gotten very very good results from Ilford FP4, HP5 and Delta 100. For Kodak films I got very good results from TMax 100, and TXP 320. The TXP is really well suited for pinhole. Kodak doesn't have as much reciprocity as Ilford, but my experience with FP4 and HP5 leave me looking no further for general every day use.

    On rare occasions I have really enjoyed using Adox CHS Art 25. The reciprocity is almost nothing. It becomes a "fast" film under pinhole applications. Same thing goes with the faster 50 and 100 ASA versions but then the quality degrades, and grainyness appears (in 100). The Adox CHS Art 25 has an undeterminable grain. You cannot tell there is a grain. If that's your desire, consider this film. You'll get a little darker skies too, which is a real bonus when there's clouds as it creates a very dynamic sky. You don't want to overexpose this film. It will blow out highlights. Somewhere I have information on calculating reciprocity with Adox. It does not work like the other films. If anyone's interested on that, sound the alarm and I'll try to dig up the details.
     
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    Howard, if you can fun Fuji Acros, try that. If I remember correctly, no reciprocity adjustment for exposures up to 2 minutes!
     
  23. Perry Way

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    Welcome to pinhole photography with a Zero Image camera. I like them all, but the third one sticks out (to me).

    As for working on your reciprocity, consider this first. Due to the low light situation, getting an exposure wrong is harder to do than you may think. There is a lot of latitude in the exposure. Way more than in lensed photography. Next, get your hands on the program "Pinhole Designer" http://www.pinhole.cz/ if you have Windows. You can use that program not only to design a pinhole camera but also to generate a table of exposures on the basis of f22 measurement with your light meter. Oh man, that program is very nifty. Too bad they don't add more films to the database, but most of the films today are near 100% matches for the films that are in that database, so you just have to know what you're looking for, but this is a great little program and I rely on the charts I have made from it. I just measure for f22 always, then get my time, then look on my chart, bingo. It's a go. the lower the light, the more the latitude. late afternoon shots look the same if it's a 10 second or 15 second exposure. That's the kind of latitude there is, when you have the right reciprocity and this program will help you achieve that.
     
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    Great advice. I have a MAC but I also have an old under powered netbook running XP home edition. I hope it will run on that. A table of exposures would help. On the back of my multi format I have an exposure dial from Zero Image and I take a reading with the light meter then transfer to the dial and then look at either f55 for zone plate or f158 for pinhole, but have had to guess (usually double the times) at very long exposures. The self portrait one of me on the bridge was 6 minutes in the forrest with some open sky. (Also a guess, but it was harder to stand almost still for 6 minutes)

    Hope to get the camera out this Sunday and shoot some film. Will be in Columbus Ohio on Sunday (I think) so I'll see about shooting some things there. Might take some long exposure shots in the house to burn up the B&W and put a roll of Color in for the weekend. Might have nice fall weather.

    Lee
     
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    Use for Exposure Calibration

    Try one of these methods and let us know the results.
    Can't recall where I bumped into it on the web.
     

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    daleeman the last image as someone before me mentioned is great, I would love to see the image with some sharpening (my taste of course).
    Hope no offence is taken with the small edit I made:smile:
     

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