Available 400 speed B&W in 120?

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  1. Chiron

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    So it's been some time since Fuji killed Neopan 400 in 120 and that leaves me wondering what exactly is left?

    I see that Freestyle has Arista Edu, but that looks like rebadged Foma. I know that Kodak still has (new/different) Tri-X. Are there any other options for B&W in 120?

    Thanks,
    Chiron

    P.S. Has anyone seen a press release from Fuji that states one way or another if they're replacing Neo 400? Not wanting to speculate or pass rumors, just wondering if anyone's seen anything solid.
     
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    Soon there will be Holga branded 400 .......
     
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    Off the top of my head this is what I can remember. Check Freestyle and B&H and I am sure you will find a few more.

    Ilford:

    Pan F
    FP4
    HP5
    SFX
    Delta 100
    Delta 400
    Delta 3200 (ISO 1000)

    Kodak:

    Plus-X
    Tri-X 400
    T-Max 100
    T-Max 400

    Fuji:

    Neopan Acros 100

    Efke:

    Ortho 25
    25
    50
    100
    IR820
    IR820 Aura

    Adox:

    Ortho 25 (possibly the same as Efke Ortho 25, though I am not sure)
    CHS 25 (same as Efke 25)
    CHS 50 (same as Efke 50)
    CHS 100 (same as Efke 100)
    Possibly others that I don't know off hand

    Rollei:

    Pan 25
    Ortho 25
    IR 400
    A few more with which I am not familiar (Do they have an 80 speed and a 20 speed b/w, or is that Adox?)

    Foma:

    100
    400
    possibly more

    These are all I know off hand.
     
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    2F/2F beat me to the posting. :smile:

    All that counts is that you have the information. I shoot mostly Kodak Tri-X 400 in 120, Ilford HP5+ in 4x5.

    Steve
     
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    2F/2F, nice list.
     
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    I don't know if you want to process in C41

    Ilford XP2 Super

    It's C41 process, but it has a clear substrate so you could print on B&W paper unlike the discontinued in 120 format Kodak BW400CN
     
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    Oops. I listed any 120 film, not just 400!

    ...and I left out XP2.

    Are BW400CN or the Fuji b/w C-41 film made in medium format?
     
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    2F, you're a mensch. The top of your head is a more, er, active place than mine! :smile:

    BW400CN has been terminated in MF, sadly.
     
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    Thanks, Mike. I know all of these films exist because I have used most of them at some point or another, even if not regularly; all except the Foma and the Efke Aura. I also work near Freestyle, so I am in there frequently.

    So, for 400 it looks like:

    HP5
    Delta 400
    XP2
    Tri-X
    T-Max 400
    Foma 400
    Rollei IR 400
    ...and probably some more that I don't know (possibly including Fuji's b/w C-41 film, which I have never tried)

    I'd say that if you liked Neopan 400, then Delta 400, T-Max 400, or Rollei IR 400 would be the most suitable replacements.
     
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    Ah but the relative price of IR400 is pretty sobering, unless you need the long wave response! I just ran through five rolls of it and took a few sans filter to see what would happen, it looks OK, but not at $9 a roll for 120.
     
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    About Rollei films:

    Pan 25
    Ortho 25
    ATP1.1 (Advance Technical Pan)
    Retro 80S
    Retro 100 Tonal (Orthopan)
    Super Pan 200
    Retro 400S
    IR820/400

    Apart from some rest stock:
    Retro 100 (APX100)
    Retro 400 (APX400)
    Running out of stock.

    Retro 80S Superpan 200 and Retro 400S are Gevaert aviation films with extended red sensitivity.
    Retro 100 TONAL is an own formulation of Maco and is a real Orthopan film. (Like Acros 100, Efke 25-50)

    So for iso 400 120 roll film you have an IR film (820nm) and the Retro 400S.
     
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    WoW! I didn't expect this large of a response. Thank you ALL for the info. and weighing in. I would have responded sooner, but wasn't near a computer most of the weekend and my android phone has been acting up (I've been experimenting with it).

    I've only just started coming back to film this year or so after a long hiatus, and right now I'm sticking to B&W. Acros 100 has been my main film, but I was looking a faster, complementary film. I had bought some Neo 400 in 120 and really liked it and then remembered some brouhaha about it being discontinued. When I checked, sure enough, it had been canceled. So I guess I'll experiment around to find another film to complement Acros.

    Thanks for everything folks!
     
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    Indeed...but it is certainly very nice in quality.
     
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    Loved Neopan and still have 40 rolls in the freezer but, frankly, if you loaded up on Tri-X and TMax 400, with some Delta thrown in there, you'd be 400 HAPPY for ever.