Bail Back handle for large format camera

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  1. ZoneVI

    ZoneVI Member

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    Does any possibly know who might have invented or was the innovator of the Bail Back handle for Large Format Cameras?

    I am attempting to do some research in the development and design or Large Format Cameras and I am interested in finding out this information. If anyone had any idea where the Bail Back originated I would appreciate it.

    Thanks,
    Jason
     
  2. Ian C

    Ian C Member

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    Bail Handle Film Back

    I suggest trying to contact

    Cambo Fotografische Industrie BV
    Haatlanderdijk 45 / PO Box 200
    NL-8260 AE Kampen
    The Netherlands
    tel: +31 (0) 38 3314644
    fax: +31 (0) 38 3315110
    e-mail: info@cambo.com

    or

    http://www.cambo.com/

    for a definitive answer.

    Cambo is the only camera that I’ve used whose backs were equipped with the “bail release”, which is a rectangular loop handle whose ends cam against the fixed part of the ground glass/film holder frame to hold the spring back open against the force of the closing springs. This allows for the easy insertion/removal of a film holder. This feature used to be incorporated into the Cambo backs. In recent years it was eliminated on the smaller sizes, but retained on the 8” x 10” backs.
     
  3. Ian Grant

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    They were used on De Vere mono-rail cameras just after WWII. All 3 backs for my camera use them. Not sure if all the MPP monorails used them but som did, but that was much later.

    Ian
     
  4. eclarke

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    I have 4 cameras which use them, An older Arca 8x10, a modern Arca 5x7, a Fatif 8x10 and a new Chamonix 11x14 with a double bail ( I like this handle setup best)...EC
     
  5. Dan Fromm

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    Galvin view cameras too. I've never tried -- don't have a 2x3 Galvin -- but I've read that the standard Galvin 2x3 bail back opens wide enough to accept a Graflex roll holder. I do have a bail back for my 2x3 Cambo SC, it won't open that wide.
     
  6. Jon Shiu

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    Calumet C-1 8x10 and cc400 4x5 cameras also have bail.

    Jon
     
  7. jgjbowen

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    I'd contact Richard Ritter. He has worked on enough antique camera that he just might know.
     
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    R.H Phillips cameras. Some had them as standard (my 7x17), some as optional. Dick added a bail to my 1993 8x10 Advantage series 8x10.

    John Powers
     
  9. ZoneVI

    ZoneVI Member

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    Thanks for the responses. I really was looking for who originated the Bail handle but maybe I did not post that clearly enough. I do understand lots of camera's have the bail handle, and I have been on Richard Ritter's web site so I know he can make or add a Bail handle to many camera's. I even met Richard in August of this year.

    Again what I am looking for was who originated or invented the Bail Handle.? If anyone knows the answer to this question I would appreciate it.
     
  10. Richard T Ritter

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    First camera I saw made with a bail was a French Stereo camera from the late 1800's Camera had no name on it.
     
  11. jgjbowen

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    Like I said, if anyone would know, Richard would.... :D
     
  12. 77seriesiii

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    Is there an advantage of a bail over the newer spring backs?

    ./e
     
  13. Richard T Ritter

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    On cameras 8 x 10 and larger cameras yes the springs can be set at a greater tension to hold the holder to the camera back.