Bergger 200

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  1. BrianShaw

    BrianShaw Member

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    For better or worse, I've been using Bergger 200 lately in both 120 and 4x5. Now I have two questions that maybe someone can shed some light (or opinion) on:

    1. What's the intent of the separators between the sheets of 4x5. They leave a LOT of litter in my changing bag and don't seem to have much utilitarian value.

    2. How is the name "BERGGER" pronounced. I say it like 'burger', my lab says it like 'berjer'... but its French so I sometimes think it should be 'burj-aye'.
     
  2. Roger Hicks

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    Guy Gerard, the proprietor of Bergger, pronounces it (as far as I recall) Bear-gair -- or at least, doesn't complain when I do. He lives about 50 miles from me.

    A double 'g' is never going to be soft.

    Separators are to reduce/avoid scratching. As films get tougher, fewer and fewer manufacturers use them. In most cases (including, I suspect, Bergger) they are an historical leftover anyway.

    I am hoping in the next week or two to expose some Bergger 200 in my 12x15 Gandolfi...

    Cheers,

    Roger (www.rogerandfrances.com)
     
  3. PhotoJim

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    Roger has it right. You want to pronounce it as if it were "berger" but the second G makes the G sound hard.

    It might be Ber-GAY... but my bilingual brain wants to say Ber-GEHR (with the lovely throaty R sounds of course :smile: ).
     
  4. Roger Hicks

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    I am ashamed to say that I have forgotten Guy's wife's name but I am reasonably confident that it is something like Berenice (or maybe Bernadette), and the Bergger name is part from this (BER) and part from Guy's surname (GERard).

    Cheers,

    Roger
     
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    Just out of interest, are the Bergger paper formulae Cuilleminot or Forte?

    Thanks,

    Lachlan
     
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    haven't you had any issue when loading Bergger (I aprove : in spite of its sounding like a german name, it is bear-gair, or bear-ger. Just like "burger" but with ea as in sweat for both voyels) 120 film? It seems that it's quite fog-prone, because of a too short protective paper?
     
  7. Roger Hicks

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    Dear Lachlan,

    Guy is ex Guilleminot (quality manager, as I recall), and Forte coats for him.

    YOU decide...

    Cheers,

    Roger
     
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    Yes, about 33.3% of the time I seem to get very unacceptable unanticipated exposure of the edges of my film. After shooting out my stockpile of 120, I'll probably not buy more.