Bergger query -

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  1. Resoman

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    I'm starting to work with the Bergger VCCB paper and a non-photographic question has occurred to me:

    How do you pronounce "Bergger"?

    Is it pronounced the same as the ubiquitous fast food product, or is it something more exotic?

    Just wonderin'...


    Gary,

    East Snook, TX
     
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    ber-JAY. it's french
     
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    Nope. You have to pronounce it Bergger, as if it was german. And I am french :wink:

    You want to know what it means? You are going to smile...

    BERnadette et Guy GERard, the initials of the founders ... Mr Gerard says {bergger} with a G sound
     
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    Hmmm.......burgers
     
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    Now that we know how to pronounce it, how do you like it? I've been thinking of trying it.
     
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    Thanks to Aurelien for the interesting story behind the Bergger name - give my best to Bernadette and Guy!

    In regards to the Bergger paper, it's most similar to the Ilford MGWT of any of the papers I've been using, though initially a little less warm than the Ilford. I like the color of the Bergger paper after five minutes of 1:10 selenium.

    I only made small test prints today; I'll have some stronger opinions after making some real enlargements, of course.


    Gary,

    East Snook, TX
     
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    Variable NB is the most beautiful paper I have ever tested. Dark blacks, the whitest base, flat after drying... My favorite.
     
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    I prefer fixed-grade papers - and Bergger's papers are among the very best. For those rare scenes which really need it, there's nothing better than "Silver Supreme".
     
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    I'm a fan of this paper also. What type of subjects do you print on it?
     
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    I about died in the store yesterday when I saw a fresh pack of VC CB on the shelve. That's the best news I've had in a long while. I guess I'm out of the loop.
     
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    New Bergger VCB looks like Ilford Warmtone (certainly same paper) & is very different from Forte PW
     
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    This was my first thought when I saw that Fotoimpex stores the two new Bergger papers... both VC, one neutral toned (like Ilford MG IV) and one warm toned (like Ilford MG Warmtone)... too much a coincidence, although we'll have to test them first before jumping to conclusions...