Beseler HD lenses really APO-Rodagons?

Discussion in 'Darkroom Equipment' started by chip j, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. chip j

    chip j Subscriber

    Messages:
    949
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2012
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Shooter:
    35mm
    I saw a 50mm 2.8 Besler HD lens described on E-Bay as an APO-Rodagon. Does anyone Know anything about this? I have 50 & 80 Rodagons and HDs; the HDs cost considerably more. I made a handful of prints (8x10) with the 50 HD a long time ago, and I did notice that it was unusally sharp.
     
  2. Fred Aspen

    Fred Aspen Member

    Messages:
    717
    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2006
    Location:
    North-ish-western US
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I have both a Beseler HD and Rodenstock Rodagon. The Beseler is physically identical to the standard Rodagon, just re-badged. AFAIK, it is not an APO Rodagon.
     
  3. craigclu

    craigclu Subscriber

    Messages:
    871
    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Location:
    NW Wisconsin
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Fred's depiction is also how I remember this to be. They were the 6 element Rodagons which are good, solid optics, generally. I have both the Rodagon and the APO and the APO shows a slight advantage at more extreme enlargements. Because they perform best close to wide open, they require a well-aligned enlarger to perform best with little forgiveness covered up by smaller ƒ stops..
     
  4. chip j

    chip j Subscriber

    Messages:
    949
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2012
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Shooter:
    35mm
    Thanks, guys. But I still keep wonering why a rebadged lens cost more than the oringinal?
     
  5. Patrick Robert James

    Patrick Robert James Subscriber

    Messages:
    670
    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2012
    Shooter:
    35mm RF
    The best Beseler lenses were some of the Color Pros, rebadged Computar DL lenses. Not all of the Color Pros were Computar lenses though. The ones that were had a blue coating.
     
  6. EASmithV

    EASmithV Member

    Messages:
    1,926
    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2008
    Location:
    Maryland
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Not to be confused with a beslar POS enlarging lens...
     
  7. Neil Poulsen

    Neil Poulsen Member

    Messages:
    234
    Joined:
    May 28, 2005
    Shooter:
    4x5 Format
    Were the Beseler HD's Apo Rodagons or Apo Gerogons? I heard that the Beseler 8x10 lenses were Apo Gerogons. In fact, I believe that Bob Soloman told me that a few years ago.

    The Apo Rodagons are Rodenstock's flagship enlarging lenses. In the same way that they don't repackage the Apo-Sironar-S lenses as 3rd party, I doubt that they would repackage the Apo Rodagons as 3rd party.
     
  8. chip j

    chip j Subscriber

    Messages:
    949
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2012
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Shooter:
    35mm
    Thanks. Ithink Rodenstock did rebadge some high-quality optics under the Calumet name.