Bronica ETRC Film Back Insert Help

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  1. JDW22

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    My recent foray back into analog photography has my 85 year old father dusting off his ETRC and getting excited about shooting film again. A problem has surfaced. His ETRC was an old workhorse he used on wedding assignments. It only has a 220 film insert. As you know, there are little if any 200 film offerings available and none in black and white or transparency. So here is my question;

    Can he shoot 120 film on his 220 insert or does he need to find/purchase a 120 insert?

    If he needs a 120 insert, where is a good place to find one?

    I've quickly checked KEH and eBay with no joy. Your help is appreciated.

    Regards;

    Jeff
     
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    Backs are not very expensive. KEH is a very reputable camera broker n is well trusted by most photographers here. Just Google them, you'll be very pleased with the quality of how they rate the equipment. A BGN tagged back will more than likely look new or gently used.

    KEH also stands behind their equipment with a very good return policy.

    Edit... I just checked KEH, they have a 120 BGN back for $21. Not a bad deal at all.
     
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    Thanks Paul. What I'm looking for is an ETRC 120 film holder/insert. The ETRS has a detachable back with a film holder/insert akin to a Hasselblad. That is Dad's problem. He has the ETRC which does not have a detachable back and he just needs a 120 film holder/insert to replace the 220 film holder/insert he already has. I don't believe the 120 film holder/insert from an ETRS back will work in the ETRC. I did not see any ETRC related equipment on the KEH website; however, maybe I just need help finding it.
     
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    Ah right the C is not the same as the ETRS series.

    It is possable to shoot 120 in the 220 insert. You'll have to start the roll at a different point n not at the arrow.

    Also the frames will get very close as you get closer to the end of the roll. I have done this many times with my RB67s.

    What i sugest is experiment with a roll of paper backing. With the lens off.... Advance the film to find your frame 1 start point.... It should be almost at the very tongue end.

    Then once you establish a start point.... advance the frames, mark them with a pencil so you can see how they align. Just be mindful of hiw many frames you shoot.
     
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    Just noticed that you wrote ETRC.

    My apologies.
     
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    According to the ETRC manual, the insert is the 120 insert E. I think its the same one the removeable backs for the ETRS take, thats why you cant find anything specifically for sale for the ETRC. I tried to post a link to the online pdf ETRC manual but that got my post stuck in moderation limbo.
     
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    At worst you get nine frames instead of ten with his existing back. Loading like ron says you get the ten.
     
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    Hsadler may be rigt ....

    Ya know looking at the manual... I wonder if an ETRS insert will fit in that shell?

    Wana give it a try? Jeff you in nyc?
     
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    There are very few items in the ETR series which cannot be used/mounted on a different body of the ETR series.
    • The 386 TTL adapter for ETRSi on ETRS won't plug in
    • An ETRS focus screen will semi block display of the flash confirmation light in the ETRSi viewfinder
    • Metered prism does not automatically turn on when mounted on ETR/ETRC...the button on the prism must be pressed to activate when on those bodies
    • An ETRS film magazine will not mount on the ETRC
    ...only things I can think of, off the top of my head


    But an ETRS film insert WILL work fine in the ETRC. Confirmed this in William Cheung's
    The Bronica Manual
     
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