Can you name the toner?

Discussion in 'B&W: Film, Paper, Chemistry' started by Jersey Vic, Oct 19, 2005.

  1. Jersey Vic

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    I love the tone of this 1934 print by Marianne Breslauer (See attachment) that I saw at a show and was wondering if anyone knew what toner and/or process was used to make it.
    Thanks in advance.
     

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    It looks like gold toned warm-tone paper to me.
     
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    Dear Vic,

    Looks blue on my monitor. Gold toner?

    Neal Wydra
     
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    gold toners have a blue tint , the warmer the paper, the more blue.
     
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    Have you seen the print? It can be hard to tell from what is probably a computer screen representation of a scan of a gallery postcard of a scan of a slide of a photograph.
     
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    I tried to get that kind of tone a while back. I succeeded by using an iron blue toner like berg brilliant toner or fotospeed and diluting the solution by using twice the specified quantity of water. You can try different dilution to see what works for you. But keep in mind that an iron toner doesnt protect the print has a gold toner will.
     
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    Yes-I saw the print (A great show and very cool gallery BTW) and it was this very same shade of blue. I thought it must be gold toned but it seemed slightly greener or warmer than other gold toned prints I have seen. I also realize that this may be due to the paper, toner dilution, developer, age of the print...

    Thanks All
     
  8. Don Mills

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    Hi Vic, I have a photo in the experimental gallery called "Fresh Snow". If you like the tone, I'll email you the formula.
     
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    Neofin Blu ? Once a very popular developer?
     
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    It could be the paper. I put Kodak Illustrator in a selinium toner 1:20 for archiving. Within 30 seconds it change to brown. Was shocked to say th least.
     
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    Once upon a time, when I was playing around with lots of old toner formulas, I was getting desperate since I couldn't get the tones described in my (1910 to 1930) literature. In desperation I toned a print made on Bergger Contact G2 - and the response was immediate and overwhelming!

    So the conclusion from 20 different toner recipes tested on 10 + 1 different papers was that "old papers were different".
     
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    lol
     
  13. André E.C.

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    Paterson Blue toner?

    Cheers

    André