canon rebel 2000 question

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  1. tyqre

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    So apparently the rebel 2000 puts the exposed film back into the cartridge after each shot, so in theory, I could leave one frame un-exposed so I can take the film out with the leader still available to me so I make sure I cut the edge perfectly straight so i'm not fiddling with scissors in the dark room, right?
     
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    Some of the canon cameras can be "told" to keep the leader out-check a manual,online or other.
     
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    To avoid confusion: That camera is of that kind that first winds the film completely onto the take-up spool (Pre-Wind) and then draws it back into the cartridge a frame after each exposure.
    You should be able to open the back door after exposing the last but one frame (which you left unexposed), but then the leader would still be on the take-up spool. Dependfing on type of camera taking it off could be a problem.



    But anyway, cutting the film end before loading the film onto the processing reel is no big issue. You don't need a guide or such. Just make a straight cut, then cut off the corners to make it more easy to lead the film through the spiral. If you feel a "nasty" open perforation, cut it off.

    If you feel insecure, use a pair of scissors with rounded peaks or round them off yourself.
     
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    Ok thanks for the info! Ill see if I can find that option in the manual. And thank you for the confirmation, AgX.
     
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    There is no "leave leader out" option with the Rebel 2000.

    But .....

    1. It is not necessary to use a reduced width leader on your film with the Rebel 2000. You can load film that is just cut square (if you bulk load) or can trim the narrow leader off before loading; and
    2. Nail clippers are great for trimming the corners of film before loading reels.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    My canon 1V does that, or has that option, to leave leader tongue out, however that's how I distinguish between exposed and unexposed film... I think your best bet is what was said above, just hold it between your fingers on the dark bag / darkroom and cut, it will be straight ENOUGH to accept into the reel.


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    Just buy a film leader retriever - they're not hard to use and will solve the problem.
     
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    hmm, maybe ill try that next time.
     
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    The problem with shooting all but the last frame then opening the camera back is you will lose the last frame and a half that you shot.

    I don't use pre-wind cameras because I don't have any. With a T90, for example, I listen to the film rewind; then when the sound changes I pop the back open. If I'm quick I can stop it before the film pulls all the way in.
     
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    Furthermore the T90 has a solder gab that one can bridge to have the camera leave the leader out.
    One has to open the body and to know how to solder electronics of course.
     
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    I used to leave the leader out when rewinding manually but gave up doing so after buying one of the retriever gadgets. There's almost no risk of accidentally reloading an exposed film if you rewind them fully, and it takes seconds to pull the leader back out when I come to process them.
     
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    Which retriever do you use? I heard the most different stories about the usefullness of these.

    Another aspect: When using reloadable cartridges the velvet should be handled with special care, as otherwise maltreatment would accumulate.
     
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    The one I use is made by Kaiser. It's the sort where you slide the larger "tongue" into the cassette, then turn the film spool until you hear a faint click before sliding the second smaller tongue in from the retriever. Then just turn the spool the other way until you feel resistance (trapping the leader firmly between the two tongues) and gently pull the retriever out. Works most of the time, I've never had to have more than two attempts on a given film.
     
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    Yep, that's the one. If you follow the instructions and have hearing good enough to notice the little "click" as the end of the film drops over the end of the smaller tongue then it works superbly.
     
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    I've done this, more times than I care to remember. It's the main reason I bought duplicates (and triplicates) of my favorite camera bodies.