cartridge paper for van dyke brown

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  1. paulie

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    having used a multitude of different cotton papers and enjoying the experience , although a expensive one.

    i decided to buy a large sheet of 300gsm cartridge paper, very white , flat surface and cheap 1 pound.

    wasn't expecting a great showing from this paper, swelling maybe,blotches possibly, strange coating behavior or maybe unusual coloration. what the hell ill give it a go.

    i applied two generous coatings of gelatin 4% coated with a high quality brush, temp of gel was 60 c approx, so quite hot.

    allowed to dry off naturally and finished with hair dryer.

    sensitized using a soft brush, first coat allowed to dry then a 10 sec blast from hair dryer, second coat of sensitizer , followed by a 1m 30 hair dryer on each side.

    made test strips in same manor 45 second hair dryer on each side

    i added a -10% exposure compensation to the print time due to moisture level compared to test strip.(moisture speeds up exposure, and as the test strip is likely to be dryer than larger sheet , well you get my point, 10% was perfect)

    all i can say is wow, beautiful, smooth coating, nice neutral brown tone, great contrast. and the most important thing a ice white finish to the paper.

    why am i writing all this, well because if you haven't slummed it in the cartridge paper world then do so , you wont regret it.
     
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    I think the success may have to do with the gelatine coating you did. Always great when things turn out and on the cheap, too! :smile:
     
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    In any case, if you want stable prints that will last; use pure cotton, acid and OB free art papers. Many so called cartridge papers will yellow and become brittle with age...
     
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    yeah my original intention was to use a dicromate hardened layer of gelatinn ,i will try that next and also a albumen size

    yeah i realise the archival problems, but as i dont tone my prints i suppose thats the least of my worries, if i want a archival print i use carbon transfer, as for yellowing it will take some years for the yellowing to be as dramatic as cotton is when fresh.

    i consider my vandykes to be pleasure and not business

    i will update this thread if the prints destroy themselves or spontaneously combust or alike
     
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    Ok, then we aren't going to hear anything from you (about this issue) before a couple of years... OTOH, I predict it won't take more than a couple of years - especially so if you weren't extra careful / fastidious in processing.

    Regards,
    Loris.
     
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    I've used cheap paper for cyanotype. Cyanotype prefers acidic conditions. My first cyanotype prints done... 3 years ago and haven't spontaneously combusted either :tongue: :smile:
     
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    for sure, my processing is pretty firm, im sure the vdb's will fade pretty well anyway without a noble metal, i like the temporary nature of the alt iron process, it just fades away into eternity , like us humans lol
     
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    thats good to know :0)

    i just bought another two sheets today so ill be printing away like a over excited kid . and just for a few pennies a print
     
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    > use pure cotton, acid and OB free art papers

    Acid free - the inference by me is that a buffered paper may be good. Perhaps a pH neutral paper would be best or actually for iron processes an acidic pH maybe yeild best performance.
     
  10. Loris Medici

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    Nope, acid free simply / plainly means acid free (that wasn't a figurative expression), "buffered" is not equivalent to "acid free" to me...

    Regards,
    Loris