Center filter available or needed?

Discussion in 'Panoramic Cameras and Accessories' started by nsurit, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. nsurit

    nsurit Subscriber

    Messages:
    1,425
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2005
    Location:
    Texas Hill C
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I'm in the process of getting rigged up with a Toyo 45 A camera, Shen Hoa 617 back and Schneider 90mm f8 lens. The lens is is in the 14399XXX range with multicoating. Question is is a center weighted filter available and/or needed? The obvious answer is for me to go shoot some film and see what I think and I'll do that. Would like to hear others experience with this or similar set up. Thanks in advance, Bill Barber
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 18, 2013
  2. Ian Grant

    Ian Grant Subscriber

    Messages:
    17,516
    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2004
    Location:
    West Midland
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    A center filter's not needed, it has a marginal ipact, when you use a 75mm or 65mm they are needed for critical and particularly colour work.

    I use a 75mm f8 SA on my 617 camera and shooting B&W have no need for a center filter.

    Ian
     
  3. jetcode

    jetcode Member

    Messages:
    29
    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2007
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I am using a center filter (Rodenstock IIIB) on a 75mm nikkor for B/W and color. I find on the 6x17 that there is some light falloff in the sides and I want a nice even exposure. The 110 and 210 no filter. Each lens has oodles of image circle.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 20, 2013
  4. David A. Goldfarb

    David A. Goldfarb Moderator Staff Member

    Messages:
    17,922
    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2002
    Location:
    Honolulu, Ha
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    If you are shooting slide film, you'll notice the difference with and without the filter, using a 90/8 S-A on 6x17 (I used the same lens with a Da-Yi 6x17 back). At that point, it's a matter of taste, lighting, and how important the detail is at the edges of the frame. If the main subject is in the center of the frame, then some falloff can make a stronger composition. If you want to put the subject at the edge of the frame or make a more narrative image that reads from left to right, a center filter gives you more options.
     
  5. Jeff Searust

    Jeff Searust Member

    Messages:
    361
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2007
    Location:
    Texas
    Shooter:
    Med. Format Pan
    There will be falloff at the sides but a filter is not needed. In the end it's all a matter of taste.

    Some people will tell you it's needed and the planet will fly out of its orbit and the end will be upon us if you don't use one...:wink: other people (like me) will tell you not to bother... Take your pick.
     
  6. LJH

    LJH Member

    Messages:
    687
    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2008
    Location:
    Australia
    Shooter:
    ULarge Format
    If you are shooting slide/positive, and you want even exposure, you'll absolutely need one.

    Even my 120mm has noticeable falloff toards the edges. My 90mm f5.6, with its larger image circle, needs the CF.

    If you only believe one thing that I write, believe this: it's easier to add the look of falloff in post than remove it!!
     
  7. sdzsdz

    sdzsdz Member

    Messages:
    23
    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2014
    Location:
    Hemmingen, G
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    With slide film, exspecially such difficult ones as Velvia 50 I need a center filter. As far as I know the right one for the SA 90mm /8 is the Schneider Centerfilter IIIa (older model) or IIIb (newer model). I have now used my SA 90mm /8 on 4x5 with a Centerfilter III what is orriginally designed for the 75mm SA and had very good results.