Condenser vs Diffuser

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  1. RalphLambrecht

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    Here, I'm not interested in the difference between the two systems, but I'd like to know how many people are actually using one or the other.

    Are you using a condenser, diffuser or both, and which is your main negative format?

    I appreciate all answers. The results are important to guide some research of mine.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Diffuser. It came with the dichoric head. [Chromega Dichroic II 5XL]

    Steve

    Added: PS - I use it for 135 and 120 black & white prints. I have most of what I need for color processing, but I am not doing that now.
     
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    Diffuser. fingerprints and scratches are greatly diminished or eliminated in the prints. Also, I prefer the slightly softer transition in the highlights.

    35mm, 6x6 and soon to be 4x5.
     
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    I use a VC cold light head which is diffused but I keep it backed off the negative stage by 2 or 3 inches and use a longer lens. Mostly printing 120 film on a 4x5 head. I think it prints a bit sharper this way. Just a theory. The light rays aren't able to wrap around the grain quite a much as having the diffusion plate sitting right on the film. Hard to say.
     
  5. Keith Tapscott.

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    I use a Durst Modular 70 with a Durst Vario (Variable contrast diffuse light source).
     
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    I use an Omega DII with mf condenser. My main format is 645/66 although I do use 4x5 a bit.

    I do have the 4x5 condenser although I prefer an aristo coldlight for 4x5 as the condenser is big, large, heavy and easily scratched/chipped.
     
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    Omega D5 with Ilford Multigrade 400 diffusion head.

    This is a recent change. Prior to this, for the previous two or so years, I was using a Beseler 67 series enlarger with a dichroic head.

    Prior to that, for many years, I used the condensor head on the Beseler 67C.

    I have a mint (as in unused!) condensor head for the D5, but just have it in storage right now.

    Main format - that is a tough question. I am flitting back and forth between 645, 6x6 and 6x7, with regular visits to 35mm as well.

    Matt
     
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    Diffusion, using a color head.
    Main format is 6x6, plus 4x5 and some 35mm.
     
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    Ilford 500 diffusion head for 35mm and 4x5.
     
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    Diffuser, a VCCE head on a LPL 7450 for 6x6 and 5x4.
     
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    Diffuser as I use a Durst M605 Color for both 24x36 and 6x6 formats.
     
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    In Holland: diffusion, a Rollei 6x7 enlarger with a colorhead.
    I use it for 135, 6x6 and 6x7 B&W, in the future I might add a condensor aswell......

    Peter
     
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    I use both. Primarily the condenser, but some negs just look better enlarged with the diffusion head.
     
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    Diffuser It's a Durst 605 dichroic head. Main neg size is 35mm but I do occasionally use 6x6( Agfa Isolette 1) which the 605 will cover

    pentaxuser
     
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    I use both depending on the film material and subject matter. From 35mm to 4 X 5. Chromes and B&W.

    Nate Potter, Washington DC.
     
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    Diffusion: Dichroic color head on Beseler for 6x7 and 35mm.
     
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    Hi,
    I use an LPL D6700 Diffuser colour head for 35mm.
     
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    I use a LPL 670 VCCE - I guess that's neither condenser nor diffuser.
     
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    Condenser head on an ancient Omega D2.
    Mainly print 4x5.

    have always and only ever used a Condenser head. I have an original omega lite but haven't gotten around to trying it out.
     
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    Condenser. Omega Pro Lab 4x5. I use it mainly to print 120 TMY-2 / TMX / TX negatives and 35mm TMX / TMY-2.
     
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    Both condensor and dichroic mainly for 645 and 6x7.
     
  23. Mick Fagan

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    Diffuser with a 4x5 DeVere colour head.

    Formats in descending order of film used are:- 35mm, 4x5" then 120 film.

    99% B&W these days and the rest colour negative

    Mick.
     
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    Beseler 45 and 23 Condenser on both. Colour head on the 23 (you need the conical light integrator to use the condensers with the dichro head)
     
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    Condenser. Both 135 & some 120 Format.
     
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    I use both.

    First there's an Omega E6 with a Omega florescent circle-light and a Beseler 23c II with a dichro color-head. Condensers on an Omega Pro 66 I use mostly for 2¼ and a Valoy II for 35mm. Those are the two formats I'm shooting most of the time, with some 16mm and 4x5 from time to time.

    I prefer the condenser most often but that's because those are the type enlargers I first learned on and used most often, including for large format work, although I did choose a 23c II with color-head for my first new enlarger almost 30 years ago and it gave very good service, especially with Cibachrome, Ilford Gallery and the Kodak RC papers I used to print pictures of ballet dancers under both stage and natural light. Then I was shooting mostly people, now-a-days it's more likely a still-life or a building.

    Now I am enjoying trying out different enlargers with the several still new to me films and chemicals I'm using now.