On RFF, right at this moment, there is a thread about the CV 75/2.5 Color-Heliar. This lens appears to be a solid performer. I also think it would be a good compliment to my J-12. Of course, this means that any M camera that I buy should have 75mm framelines...which gives me two options even remotely in the pricerange I was hoping for: an M4-P or an M6. This really blows, however, because I could have gotten away much cheaper with an M2. Or, of course, I could do the even cheaper thing and just buy the lens for use on my Canon P and either guess the framing or buy an accessory finder. If I do this, I may as well replace my Russian glass with CV glass and just spend the $1000 I had planned early next year on a 35mm Ultron, 50mm Nokton, and the 75mm Heliar. Just thought I'd rant a bit. You're welcome to make me want it more or less.