Developing 2-1/4 X 3-1/4 sheets film...in what?

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  1. BradS

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    What do you use to develop 2-1/4 X 3-1/4 sheets film? Will it work in the Jobo 2509n reels? Or, maybe in a patterson System IV adjustable plastic reel?
     
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    It will not work in a 2509n. That slot is set up for 6x9, not the same thing.

    I have cut 4 tubes from flourescent tube protectors and put them in my System !V tank upright around the center column. Put the film in the tubes and develop like reel film. The film is tight enough not to move around in the tube, but loose enough to allow chemicals to reach the back of the film. Some people have made tubes from nylon screening from the hardware store. That is suppose to work quite well also. Youu cmight be able to get all 6 sheets from a grapmatic in one tank.

    tim in san jose
     
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    Hey Tim,

    Thanks. I'm still trying to put that 2x3 negative carrier you gave me to use..:smile:

    I've got some film holders and film on ordeer from Freestyle now and am looking about for a nice 2x3 Graphic...May try to build a simple box camera this weekend.
     
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    You're the guy from Pleasanton, yes?

    Highland games this weekend!

    PM me. I could lend you one for awhile. I have both a Speed and a Century. And a couple of film holders.


    tim in san jose
     
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    Yes. Your Omega D-II followed me home from work one day...:smile: I've restored the lamphose and cleaned up all the condensors and other bits....The base board is still....wanting attention however.

    Scottish games..that's right! I love the bag pipes...and the drum and fife bands. Good times!

    We had the "good guys" last weekend....bunch of roudy car enthusiasts...made a mess of town.
     
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    I use a tray, but then I only use this film size very infrequently.

    Kodak made a "Kodak Adjustable Film Tank", ss tank, rubber top, ss pour spout. Has a butterfly 'reel' arrangement with a funky stainless steel loading accessory.

    There is also a Nikor cut film tank that I think will take sub-4x5 sheet film
     
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    The Nikor will take 2x3 film... but I am not willing to give up my firstborn for one and that's the going price these days.

    tim in san jose
     
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    I have a old Honeywell/Nikkor stainless steel insert that hold 2.25x3.25 film and fits in a 120 tank. Seems to work well, except that I don't have the guide that makes loading easier. So, to avoid loading 2 sheets in one slot, I end up loading it to about 1/3 capacity.
     
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    I use a Fedco daylight developing tank made for 2.25X3.25 film. Picked it up on eBay. Its circular & internally spins via a shaft. Gives good results.
     
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    I use the Nikor tank usually, but if it's just a few sheets, I'll use trays, and I have about five hangers for this format, so when I'm exposing for the developer I'm using in my deep tank or if I've got enough film to merit mixing up a 1 liter tank of another developer, I'll use tanks and hangers.

    I've also used the rack from a Yankee tank, but in larger deep tanks. If you try this, be sure the sheets are pushed all the way into the rack, so they don't fall out.
     
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    It's set up for 6.5x9cm, but you're right - it's still not close enough.
     
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    I'd love to have a deep tank line. It just seems like sheet films and deep tanks go together like...peas and carrots. Which tanks do you have David? I'd like to get the stainless steel tanks but, they do not seem to come up for sale often....are there others that you can recommend. If I had 'em, I'd use them for 4x5 (mostly) and 5x7 as well.
     
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    I think the Combi-Plan (Kombi-Plan) T tank will take 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 sheet film. The rack is adjustable up to 4x5. And it will work for glass plates or film, by reversing the end pieces.
     
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    I have mostly 5x7" 5-quart hard rubber tanks, and then I've got some Kodak 4-quart hard rubber tanks, one plastic one of recent vintage--Cesco or some such from B&H--and one 1 liter 4x5" stainless steel tank that I use mostly for monobath processing.

    The old hard rubber tanks are usually cheap, but heavy, so it's best to find ones that don't have to be shipped too far. They usually need to be cleaned fairly thoroughly, and some may have cracks. They're plentiful enough that you're better off just buying more of them, rather than fixing them, and using the cracked ones for washing film or as dry tanks for holding hangers as you load them and for storing extra hangers.
     
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    Kodak (and others) I'm sure made stainless steel film hangers for 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 size cut film, which should work fine in the hard rubber tanks.
     
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    They certainly did, but they're hard to come by. Mine are some generic brand. The only marking on them is "Stainless," and they're of different design than my Kodak hangers for 5x7" and 4x5".

    2x3" hangers and filmholders are likely to be either exorbitantly priced or free from someone who has lots and is giving them away, because they don't shoot the format.
     
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    Jobo used to make a reel:http://www.jobousadarkroom.com/faq/2x3_sheet_film.htm
    You may be able to modify the 4x5 to work like they did. Finding a used one is probably impossible. I also use the Nikkor sheet film tank. It's nice because I can also do 9x12cm in it.
     
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    I have some and they are the obscenely priced type because I ain't givin' them away! *L*

    I use them for the wash cycle only.

    tim in san jose
     
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    I saw one of these Nikkor sheet film tanks at the Keeble and Shuchat museum. I talked one of the clerks into letting me fondle it for a few minutes. It is a thing of beauty but, alas, they are hard to come by and too expensive these days.
     
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    Funny thing about the Keeble and Shuchat museum... looks like all the stuff I still use.

    tim in san jose

    P.S. Those guys in the Darkroom department are very knowledgable.
     
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    Kodak #5 Hangers
     
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    from all reports
    FR tanks work well
    but there is a learning curve
    to figure out how to load and agitate them.
    i don't do 2x3 or 3x4 ... but tray process most all the sheets i shoot.
    bad hanger experiences ruined my whole day ...
     
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    I have a Yankee that I got years ago and never had a problem with it. Some will say that they are junk though.
     
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