Developing Fuji Superia 800 in D76

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    I have a few rolls of expired Fuji Superia 800 and I would like to develop them in B&W chemicals. It seems more interesting than converting the images to B&W in Photoshop. I use the Kodak D76 developer (& fixer) and I'm familiar with the normal C41 and D76 development processes but not this "mix". I think I need some help here... :confused:

    Where can I find the development times for D76 (1:1) but using color fim? Or is there a "rule of thumb" for the development times of color films with D76?

    Any guidance will be highly appreciated! :smile:
     
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    Help... Anyone?

     
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    don't use any developers with metol because it produce high density fog.
    try to develop in Diafine. EI will be about 200. or Microphen 1+1 10-15min to EI 400-800
    also search forum - some time ago I posted set of formulas for developing C41 film as BW and clear base
     
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    i've never used d76 for b/w or color.
    i've used a lot of other things though ...
    for processing color in b/w chemistry my
    fluid of choice is eyeball measured caffenol c
    with 15cc of stock ansco130 / 1L caffenol ... stand developed for 26 mins ...
    the film has its usual color mask ... but any b/w developer will give
    you the same color mask ... c41 is one color, e6 is another ...

    good luck !
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    I would take a guessing stab and put a starting point of 8 to 9 minutes for D-76 1+1 20 celsius, given similar activity compared to other developers of films that have same/similar times as C-41 film I've processed in them.
     
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    repeat again - don't use any developers with methol (d76, d23 etc). it cause high fog level
     
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    ansco 130 has metol, hq and glycin, potass bromide and sodium carbonate and sodium sulfite in it ...
    i haven't seen excessive fog levels ... maybe its the coffee ? maybe its the glycin ?
     
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    I've had decent success developing color film in Dektol(D-72), but it's been a few years and I don't recall the times used. It will result in some fairly contrasty negatives, it's needed if you plan on trying to print them.
     
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    maybe this depended from film also
     
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    if it is film dependent ...
    i have used it on superia 800, 400 and 200 as well as
    sensia 100 + 400 films

    never had excessive fog ...
    no more than the b/w film i process in the same soup,
    sometimes less
     
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    from my notes: I have very poor result with KodakMAX400. film base is very dark
    fuji film less sensitive to developer agents - I was processing some nouname fuji films (Klick etc) in developers with metol with good results.
     
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    I'd try HC-110 dilution B for 5 to 6 minutes.

    But I think C-41 development will be your best bet for "normal" looking pix. The b/w papers that are designed for printing from color negs are gone, but you can convert to 4x5 b/w neg by using a film interpositive. Go with b/w developer if you like grain and contrast. (Shoot subjects that are well suited to it.)

    You can also lith print just fine from color negs.
     
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    I know you're looking for D-76 times, but just thought I'd add that Diafine will develop anything without worrying about having the correct time. I've used it for some decades old K25 that I found in an old camera.
     
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    Thank you for all the answers! :smile:

    Although many recommended other developers, I would like to try it with D76 since it's what I have currently available. I'm going to test with one of the Fuji rolls (it doesn't have anything important in it) and see what comes up using similar C41 development times. Diafine seems to be the best developer for this so I may try it later.