Do I need to spend more on Ortho films?

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    Hello friends,

    after a big delay I conducted a nice experiment that can be useful for someone. Well, I don't pretend to discover something new, but the "portrait" light cyan-bluish filters really give to you the "ortochromatic" famous look of the skin tones! More, the blue light from the flash does about the same, but in a more harsh a way. I did the comparison of the portaits shot on FP4+ (dev. in Microphen 1+3) with filter on camera, without a filter, and with blue, green and red filters over my Metz 45CT-3 with umbrella, and the portraits on Maco Ortho film. The thing is that I like the effect of blue filtration on camera lens and flash even more than the real ortho film :smile: Of course, I printed all my prints from all films to the same maximum black to make them comparable. Does anyone use coloured flash light when shooting portraits, or I'm on a threshold of something new? :smile:

    Cheers from Moscow,
    Zhenya
     
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    I don't use filters when shooting portraits with flash...but after reading this I might give it a try.
    Thanks for the idea.
     
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    Yes, give it a try - I didn't expect such an effect. The most flattering effect and the smoothest gradation in my case resulted from green filter - it also gave a nice darker skin tones and darker lips, but the greenish shirt was quite white :smile: I was not sorry for it, though :wink:

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    hi zhenya --

    if you like those smooth + silky skin tones have you tried using a yellowish-green filter + overexposing your film a few stops? you might like the results even more :smile: .... maybe not :wink:

    have fun!
    -john


     
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    Hi John,

    I like silky and smooth skin tones, so I used the YG filter and overexposure before - but it takes stops off my combination, and it's not always good... the filtered flash light seems to me a bit more clean, simple and easy - especially with automatic flashes :smile: Yellow-greenish is in reality yellow plus blue, cutting down both reds and blues - that's why the skin becomes so smooth :smile:

    Cheers from Moscow,
    Zhenya

     
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    hi zhenya

    oops, i misread your original post - you are filtering the light !

    sounds like a great way to achieve the same -- or even better results than filtering the lens. i'd love to see some of your results :smile:

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    Hi John,

    yes, I am filtering the light - and that really delivers better results compared to lens filtration, at least it seems so to me :smile: It's also easier to make any required filter by using transparent sheet filters over the flash... without worrying about their optical quality :smile:

    Though the coloured filter set was deisgned by Metz primarily for colour films, I didn't meet anywhere any suggestion to use them with B/W films - so I just tried it :smile: I promise to scan my prints and post them here, so everyone could compare.

    Cheers,
    Zhenya