Dry down video.

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    Here's a small section from the upcoming "Intro to the Black and White Darkroom DVD", concerning print dry down. Keep in mind that this is for the novice, and doesn't go in to great detail. That's what a workshop with Les is for....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORLGSIDSZTc
     
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    I think it covers it pretty effectively for a 1.5 minute presentation, well done!
     
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    you are one smart feller
     
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    Great demo!
     
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    Nice, well explained.
     
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    Jay,

    I found that to be very helpful. I appreciate concise, informative presentations. Thanks!

    Bob
     
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    excellent. Keep it coming. It would be great for APUG to have an exhaustive library of "every little thing" about darkroom, view camera use, exposure, etc.
     
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    Oh thank goodness it is about the other dry down... For I minute there I thought it might be you stepping out of the shower! Crisis averted. :smile:
     
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    It's hard to keep my hat dry when I bathe, so I just avoid it.
     
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    Nice little video. Looking forward to more...
     
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    Jason, you rock
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    dry down can be a pain in the ass hehehehe. In my lab I have a microwave and for the test strips I microwave them to a complete dry point. this is a great way to speed up the dry down process
    so you can continue onto final prints. I do not recommend microwaving final prints.
     
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    Yet again a very god film. I hope the coming DVD will sell well.
     
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    I have a little oil filled electric heater that provides a gentle heat that I use in the winter. It set the print on a piece of matt board over the heater. The matt board helps wick the moisture out of the print. It dries a fiber print in about 10 minutes, and comes out pretty flat.

    The DVD is based on RC paper, and that dries pretty quickly. With only 80 minutes to cover the whole subject, its difficult to go in to every tip and trick and still get the job done. I thought about mentioning the microwave, or my heater trick, but I don't think that would be a prudent reccomendation in a general sense, because that would be recommending a product for something other than it's intended use, and somebody not so smart might manage to have some kind of problem, and try to blame me. Silly? Yes. That's what it has come to.
     
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    I hope it will sell well too. As it is begginner DVD, I'm going to price it as low as I can, for students, etc. When your just starting you have already spent a bunch of money, and even though things are cheap these days, it all ads up. I know I'm not gonna get rich with this thing, but in order to put together a concise and thorough overview, well, youtube wouldnt cut it, so it had to be a DVD. It's mostly a labor of love. If it buys a box of film or so periodically, I'm happly financially, but I'm most interested in getting people into darkrooms, and using paper. That's my heartfelt motive.
     
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    Good man.

    Cheers

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    10 minutes!
    Isn't that considered a long time for checking dry-down? I personally get bored with darkroom work if it's dragging along too slow, or it's getting late and I'm tired and getting frustrated with something difficult. The session would end.
     
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    Music, check email, check new posts on APUG, look at bikini of the day, get a beer... etc.

    Actually, I don't dry out every print and test strip, because once I am familiar with a paper, I don't need too. Very rarely, when I make my first finished print, I need to go back and adjust for dry down.
     
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    Not only informative .... entertaining, too.

    Thanks.


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    I bought RH Design's Stop Clock Professional timer partly because of its dry down feature which is outstanding: I simply press the "less" button until it reaches -8 for Ilford's fiber paper and I get no dry down effect at all. Unfortunately, with the U.S. dollar valued so low right now, the timer is very expensive. Gads, even hiring a prostitute in England for companionship and sex must be very expensive for lonely American businessmen right now, too!
     
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    Thus the need for a follow-up DVD titled "Don't Try This at Home". You could probably charge more for that one. :smile:

    Lee
     
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    Maybe I should run a super on the bottom, in little font:

    "Professional photographer in closed darkroom, do not attempt."
     
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    Understood!
    Basically, you take allot of breaks. Me too!

    I'll admit, I use a paper I'm familiar with and do very few tests for dry down. I use a, somewhat, dim light for viewing wet prints. I play music sometimes but usually I like it quiet when things are happening, the music can be distracting while I'm trying to concentrate - I wouldn't be listening much.
     
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    I can see it now:

    Jason's (product placement) sneakers throw a red safelight backlit fine spray as he rounds the corner from enlarger to developer tray on the wet skidpad at speed...

    Lee
     
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    Great visual Jason. Thanks!