Hi! I'm looking to get into large format, and would need both the camera and an enlarger. I live in Sweden, and the market for large format stuff is kind of limited. I could of course buy everything on the great auction site, but enlargers are HEAVY! And BIG! Shipping these stuff is expensive. So it might be a better idea to buy on the swedish market. I have found a Beseler 45 MXII with three lenses and neg carriers from 35mm to 4x5, for around 900 USD. The fact that it's a complete kit makes it quite attractive, although the price is maybe not a bargain. An OK machine? When it comes to cameras, I have found two options locally: a Linhof Technika III with a 90 mm and a 150 mm, 16 holders, a polaroid back (unsure of which model) for about 900 USD. I think this is pretty steep for such an old camera with limited movements. I'm also worried that the bellows will crack and new bellows for Linhof seems rare and expensive. a Sinar Norma 4x5m with a Rodenstock Sironar-N 150/5.6 and a Rodenstock grandagon 90/8, 4 double sided Lisco holders and wide angle bellows. I assume the standard bellows are included as well. Priced just under 700 USD. The Norma seems to be a charming and well built camera, with lots of movements. Spare parts and other stuff does not seem scarse. My interest in LF is mainly due to the movements possible, not so much about neg size. I want to use and abuse movements for urban scenes, a few landscapes and portraiture. I'm leaning towards the Norma as it seems like a quite lightweight monorail, with LOTS of movements. It's also cheaper. I could of course find cameras online, as shipping is not that expensive, but the above are attractive as they are complete kits. Any thoughts?