Estate sale "score"

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  1. 2F/2F

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    Hello,

    As some of you may know, I am the photographer for an estate sales company. I photograph objects on white backgrounds for e-bay, but another part of the job is photographing our warehouse or locations after they are set up for a sale. These pix are used to advertise upcoming sales. As such, I come across old photo equipment all the time, and my boss always gives me first chance to purchase anything for 30% off sticker price before the sale opens to the public. (Since 30% is usually the company's "take" for a job, his version of an employee discount is to not take the 30% for items purchased by employees.) Most of the time it is nothing to write home about, but I have got a nice Linhof III kit and an early Voigtlander Petzval this way.

    Today I made a decent "score" on a lot of stuff, and I am curious what exactly one of the items is.

    Today I got a near mint Omega B-22XL, which is a twin of the enlarger I already have. It has a better lens than mine (Rodenstock 50mm), and a smaller baseboard, which is nice. I also got a Nikkormat FT with a 50mm Nikkor-S and two Vivitar lenses (28mm f/3.5 and 135mm f/2.8).

    However, the real interesting thing is a very nice old leather case filled with Zeiss sheet film holders, and one object that appears to be a film pack holder. These are very slim and made of metal. I have not yet determined whether they are 4x5 in. or 9x12 cm, as the lot of them is still at the location. There is also a set of three filters. Looks like two diopters and a graduated yellow filter.

    I love the slim design. However, there is no ridge on the holders for a Graflok back, so I doubt that they will have any utility for me in my 4x5 camera backs. Unfortunately, the camera was nowhere to be found. Perhaps I could use them in a pinhole camera, or if I some day get the camera they are designed to fit.

    Does anyone have any ideas what they might be?

    I have attached an image of a 6.5x9 version that appears very similar (found on Photo.net, posted by Mr. Pico DiGoliardi).

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    When I began in photography some 40+ years ago, the C.P. Goretz 3.25X4.25 folding camera my grandfather gave me had similar holders. They can either hold plates; or with the septums hold film.

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    They are quarter plate or 9x12, the film inserts are hard to find so your lucky. The problem is Zeiss made at least 3 version of the plate holder, there was no national (German) or International standard before WWII. This link gives an idea of the problem, the cameras all look quite similar if not virtually identical.

    Sounds like a good day :D

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    If you cant use them I know of someone who can:wink:
     
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    Its too much of a hazle to find out if they are any good. Just send them to me :tongue:
     
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    They won't fit a "Hazleblad" :D
     
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    Thanks for all the information. I will post details when I get the time. I have the stuff now. Forgot to mention the Yashica D. Though it is in very nice shape and has a leather case, the shutter does not appear to be working. I got it all for $100.

    P.S. In the Nikon's case I just discovered a roll of 35mm 2475 recording film, expired 1973, in the [opened] box with metal canister and instructions.
     
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    I expect they are metal film holders for a 9x12 "hand and stand' camera of a type popular in the teens and twenties of the last century.
     
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    One more thing: The holders are all marked 665/7 and Zeiss Ikon, though there are a few slightly different designs. There are seven of them, plus a Voigtlander holder that appears to be for a film pack or something similar.

    The two diopters are marked Carl Zeiss Jena, and Proxar 2 x 42 and Distar 3 x 42. The yellow grad filter has no markings, and does not appear similar in design to the Zeiss diopters.
     
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    I'm pretty sure 665/7 is the part number for Zeiss 9x12 plate holders of the "Normalfalz" type. The Voigtlaender film-pack holder would be consistent with this (Voigtlaender used the same standard for holders).

    You'll find plenty of people over in the plate-camera forum who will have a use for these. (Not me; I'm pretty well set for 9x12, though I still need some holders and a ground-glass back for 6.5x9.) Or you could develop a plate-camera addiction of your Very Own. :smile:

    -NT
     
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    Thanks for the information, everybody. I'd like to hang on to the holders, but could use some extra cash to get some various repairs done. I will be selling the holders. I gave the enlarger away to a friend for whom I set up a darkroom. I will probably try to get the Yashica unjammed and keep it as a "car camera". The two Vivitar lenses for the Nikon are also going to go (cheap). The Nikkor-S is trash due to its badly marked front element. I might try to take it apart and tweak it for soft focus or something like that, but it is probably just a paperweight or a parts lens. One guy e-mailed me already about the holders. I wonder what they are worth.
     
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    OK - holders, case and filters are listed in the classified section!