ETRS Bronica PE Lenses and AEII prism

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    Since the PE lenses have half stop apertures, does the AEII prism work with them? Does it get the right info from the lenses?
     
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    Yes and no.

    PE lenses will "work" [meter] on the ETRS with the AE-II prism but at full-stop detents only.

    The AE-III prism is required to meter 1/2-stop aperture settings with PE lenses.
     
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    Thanks. I have found a couple sources that seem to disagree. Interesting discrepancy.

    http://www.flickr.com/groups/ishootfilm/discuss/72157627564455909/

    Either way I may still pick up the AEII for times I don't want to fuss with a handheld meter. I have a perfectly good spot meter that I prefer, so the AEIII seems like wasted money.
     
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    I use PE lenses and an AEII finder on my ETRS.
     
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    Before making a purchase I once asked Bronica about the exact EV range of the AE-III. In that conversation the tech rep made a point to say that, in addition to a bunch of other features, only the AE-III could address half-stops or less [using only PE lenses of course].

    Now, perhaps half-stop metering with the AE-II is an unadvertised/unofficially supported feature. Perhaps the AE-II can compensate by electronically adjusting the set shutter speed, say from 1/250 to 1/300, but this is what I was told and nothing in any of the relevant instruction manuals says otherwise.

    Have to disagree here.

    The AE-III's expanded EV range [1 to 19 vs. the AE-II's 4-17] and increased shutter speed range [down to 32s as opposed to the AE-II's 8s] along with having the Spot/Average option combined with the memory button [and a much easier to use exposure compensation dial] makes metering accurately in tough situations a breeze.

    Also, the ability to bias the AE-III for use with a brighter focusing screen is a great feature and, unless you have perfect vision, don't discount the usefulness of the built-in diopter correction. All of this in a package that uses less battery power and weighs 40 grams less.

    Oh, and the eyepiece blind is IMO essential for tripod use.
     
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    Many thanks for the valuable perspective.
     
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    Yeah, you make me want to buy the AEIII now!!!
     
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    I had an AE-II before I got the AE-III.

    It's not that the AE-II is bad, it isn't, it's just a lot less convenient than the AE-III.

    I found that with the AE-II I was using my Sekonic just as much as before and I had to go to B or T for exposures longer than 8s. IMO if you're going to be using a hand-held meter most or even just some of the time anyway, then you might as well just use the lighter non-metered prism - you also wouldn't have to worry about battery drain then either.

    Another benefit of the AE-III is that it displays a lot more useful information than does the AE-II; you get shutter speeds in either 1/2 or 1/3 step increments [can't remember which off-hand], an exposure compensation indicator, indications for AE or M modes, an AE-Lock indicator, an indicator for Sport or Average metering mode, auto back-lighting in low ambient light, and an out-of-metering/out of shutter speed range indicator.