Extention Tubes

Discussion in 'Medium Format Cameras and Accessories' started by hortense, Jul 29, 2005.

  1. hortense

    hortense Member

    Messages:
    612
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2004
    Location:
    Riverside, C
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    To use a 150mm lens on a MF camera to avoid getting on top of the image that is being photographed, what size extention tubes should be considered?
     
  2. Donald Miller

    Donald Miller Member

    Messages:
    6,242
    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    A 21 mm extension will get me about 18 inches out from the object with a 150 mm lens.
     
  3. hortense

    hortense Member

    Messages:
    612
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2004
    Location:
    Riverside, C
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    Donald, with your 21 mm extension that puts you out 18 inches out from the object with a 150 mm lens, am I correct in assuming that your focus would be set at infinity? And that the area of coverage would be about 14 sq. in. (therefore, assuming a square format, the image size would be approximatly 3 3/4 in. wide amd
    3 3/4 in. high?
     
  4. mmmichel

    mmmichel Subscriber

    Messages:
    46
    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2005
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Shooter:
    4x5 Format
    hortense,

    It depends on the close focus distance of your lens. You can use these two formulas:
    1/f = 1/rd+1/od, and magn = f/rd-f; where f is focal length, rd is rear distance (to film plane) and od is the distance to the object.
    I'll use my own example. I have a (Bronica) 150mm lens that focuses to 1.5 meters (1:9 magnification). I can get the rear distance by rearranging the first formula as:
    rd = 1/(1/f-1/od), which with f = 150mm and od = 1500mm gives me 167mm rear distance.
    Now, if I want to determine the magnification an 18mm extension tube will get me, I can just add 18 to my rear distance (which is 150mm at infinity and 167mm at the closest distance) and calculate the magnification using the second formula. This gives me about 1:8.3 at infinity and 1:4.3 at the closest focus setting.
    Note that you can also recalculate the focus distances by manipulating the first equation.
     
  5. mmmichel

    mmmichel Subscriber

    Messages:
    46
    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2005
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Shooter:
    4x5 Format
    The second equation should actually read magn = f/(rd-f) . I forgot the parentheses. sorry for any misunderstanding.
     
  6. hortense

    hortense Member

    Messages:
    612
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2004
    Location:
    Riverside, C
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    Thank Michel. I'll run the numbers.
    MAC
     
  7. bobfowler

    bobfowler Subscriber

    Messages:
    1,439
    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2003
    Location:
    New Jersey,
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Well, a lot depends on which system you're using because THAT will determine what size tubes are available. For the 6X6 Bronica SQ series, there are only two, an 18mm and a 36mm. I don't know what's available for the Hassey or others. I bought both of the available tubes for the Bronica. The 18mm gets the most use.