Film Problem - Zeiss Ikon Super Ikonta IV

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  1. VanPelt

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    Hi all,

    I've been using an old Zeiss Ikon Super Ikonta IV for a while, and I'm having some trouble with the film. As I understand it, the original film was thicker than modern film, which causes the frames to overlap; this problem grows worse with every shot.

    I was just wondering if anyone has any tips on how to avoid this. I really like the camera, especially the colours, and would like to use it more.
     
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    I know there are fixes, I just can't remember exactly. If no-one here know exactly, there's the Zeiss Ikon Group on yahoo. I seem to remember that some would add something small to the take up spool. If I remember where I read it I'll pipe back up.
     
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    Is there not a way of defeating the filmcounter-shutter interlock and just using the film window?
     
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    I second that suggestion, just use the film window and you will be fine, that works for me pretty well with my Ikonta.
     
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    There is the same problem on my Old Standard Rolleiflex; to fix it, I add two turns of tape on each edge of the take up spool.
     

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    I knew it. Thanks Andy. Going to do this on my Super Ikonta I dug out to start using.
    Jeff
     
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    I have a Super Ikonta IV also, but don't have a problem with overlapping frames. I wonder if it needs servicing?
     
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    Near the bottom of this page on the Super Ikonta III and IV, Jurgen says, "Before loading your film, cut 2” of film paper backing from an old film and tape it to your new film’s leader. You’ll have to experiment, you may need 2 1/2” or 3” … depends on your camera of leader."

    http://www.certo6.com/cameras/zeiss-super-ikonta

    He's also got a couple of pictures off to the side.
     
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    "they all do that, sir" :wink:

    As previously mentioned, you need to add a little thickness to the take-up spool - a couple of turns of backing paper or similar is often enough. You will find differences between films too. I often just wind the arrows on past the start mark, to just by the take-up spool chamber. That seems to be enough to stop overlapping frames, though some are close.

    The "red window", at least on the III, is not a red window at all, just a little spy hole - big enough to see you've got film loaded, not big enough to see the numbers.
     
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    Thanks guys, I'll experiment and see if I can sort it out!