I posted here a while ago regarding trying colour printing and soliciting some advice from the gurus on this site. Well, I tried it last night, with great success thanks to you folks. First try I got the paper in the drum backwards, so that didn't work. Tried again with the paper the right way, and that was better, but waaay too dark. Finally wound up with a 6X7 neg exposed through an 80/5.6 Componon with 55y and 45m at 3.5 sec at f16. The paper package stated 45 and 45, but some of you folks suggested to give 10 yellow to compensate for old paper. (I was using 10 year old Kodak Supra). I'm surprised that the colour paper is that fast. Tried a dark green safelight filter, no good, it fogged the paper. So I'm back in the dark. I had another apugger (D. Lyga) email me a sheet of dilutions he used for colour development that were much more dilute than the regular mixing on the bottle of developer, so I tried it, and it worked perfectly. Normally, the dilution makes 10 litres. He suggested to dilute to the equivalent of 80 litres. The developer I used I obtained from the local pro lab, and is a single bottle of concentrate (different than the "three bottle" RT mix from Kodak). It worked perfectly, and without any starter. I measure a litre of water, and add the correct amount of developer concentrate to make a litre of working solution. I use 100ml per sheet, so I get 10 prints out of a litre. At 16.3 ml of developer concentrate per litre of working solution, the developer should last me quite a while (1.3L bottle). I plan on decanting the dev and blix into smaller bottles filled to the top with no air. Apparently, the single bottles of dev and blix don't have as long a shelf life as the three bottle RT mixes. 30 sec pre-wash, 4.30 Dev, wash, 2.0 blix, wash. all at room temp of 70F. I use the developer one shot, and I mix up about 500ml of blix, and pour the used blix back into the 500ml beaker and re-use it for the session. I'm hooked. I'll post an image or two when I can get my APS (antique piece of sh#@) scanner to work. Many thanks to all of you who offered advice. This place rocks. Rick.