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Discussion in '[Classifieds] Misc. -Anything Goes' started by Gustavo_Castilla, Apr 26, 2010.
For sale Nikon D70 body
good clean condition
asking $250.00 plus shipping
oh no! a digicam!
It's okay in the "Misc." classifieds.
I was just kidding around
It's amazing how much these digital SLRs depreciate. I remember paying $1200 for mine new in 2005. Kind of sad actually.
It is not sad, except maybe for those who do not keep their equipment long before selling it...and even then it is not sad, because no one is forcing them to sell so soon/often!
For everyone else, it is great! A 10D, 20D, or D70 for just a few hundred bucks is a good deal! On an absolute level, they are no less good than they were when they were brand new...and even on a relative level, compared to the models that have replaced them, they still aren't that bad.
I paid 1250.oo for mine I am hoping to get a newer model NOT New just a bit newer
I guess I just think it's sad because when we purchase our gear (film cameras) we are assured it will hold value. Hell I've bought into systems knowing that if it didn't work for me for whatever reason that I could still sell it and get my money back out of it. Digital is disposable. You buy a camera, then 3 to 5 years later you upgrade. That's what sad to me.
The problem is with seeing tools as financial investments in any way, shape, or form. The value in a tool comes only through use. It is lack of use that makes a camera expensive, not poor resale values. You don't want to lose money on a camera? Simple. Don't sell it, shoot it a lot, and, best of all, use it to make money.
Here is the way I see it, my vision is probably not so good, but I will tell you what I think.
When film was king you could get away with keeping a camera body for a long time because your camera would get better as the film got better, Film makers made money and drew in new customers by making the film better and better. Camera makers kept money coming in by adding and dropping a few new cameras into and out of their line up every year or so.The only reason people bought cameras is because they wore out (Pros), there was a new gota have feature (Auto focus), they wanted something better (this point and shoot sucks), the old one was stolen, they broke the old one.
Now the film is integrated into the camera in the form of the sensor so if you want a better resolution photo you need a newer camera. Never mind that a 6MP camera can shoot a photo that can be printed 12 x 18 easily, no we need more resolution. I hate to say this, but until the sensor in a DSLR matches what 35mm film can do prices will keep doing what they are doing now. I think it is funny that people want better resolution, but the average casual photographer is going to get 4 X 6 prints, or only look at them on their computer screen that is not all that high res anyway. Pros are going to do big prints, and wear out equipment, but there is a limit to how large most pros will print, who really wants a 22 X 34 poster of themselves, really? Pros will probably take the hardest hit because prices will increase on a sharper curve as performance and price go up sharply every year, but you use up a camera in about a year or two, maybe three on the outside it's going to hurt. Eventually performance and price will hit a plateau and old digital will stabilize and prices for used equipment will be more like they were for film equipment before digital came along.
One thing really puzzles me in all this, I hear pros all the time say "I sold all my Nikon gear and went Cannon, then I sold all my Cannon gear and had to buy all new Nikon gear" Or the other way around. What is with this "ALL" my gear thing? I want to know why when you swap systems don't you keep your glass? Maybe not all of it, but at least keep the best, and hardest to replace stuff. You know you are lying when you say you will never go back, and even if you don't go back glass holds value better than a body, sell it in a better market, or at least wait until you are sure your staying. I was a mechanic for a lot of years so maybe that is my problem, mechanics never use the word sell when talking about their own tools, then again tools have played nice across systems starting with Snap-On in 1920, cameras not so much. Also I have ingrained in me the "as soon as I get rid of it I will need it" mentality.
Good lenses seem to be holding their value quite nicely, and they often make up a significant portion of the photographer's investment.
who gives a shit !
Are you directing this at a particular post, or just making a general statement about life the universe and everything?
how is the poor man going to sell this camera with us all on here fussing about, BTW still have and use my d70 and think it's a wonderful camera. 250 is a great price if I didn't have one I'd take it, good luck with sale Gustavo.
Can I use it as a wheel chock to keep a car from rolling down hill? [Gustavo, I am helping you. Really. I just gave your ad a bump.]
Amen! I'm always a couple of generations behind on purpose...When the Canon 30D came out, I was shooting with a 20D, when the 40D came out, I added a 30D to my collection, then a 10D. I ended up selling the 10D/20D and picked up another 30D...so, in the age of 50Ds, I'm shooting with a pair of bargain-priced 30Ds. The original owner of the 10D bought it for around $2,000 with taxes. I bought it off him with a grip, extra batteries, etc for $300...it was an amazing camera! I ended up selling it for $320 a year and a half later. The 20D I used for a couple of years and sold it for what I paid for it...and to this day miss it, it was an excellent camera. The 30Ds...well, I've always had a soft spot for them...I'll shoot them 'till the shutters drop out...even if by then Canon will be marketing their hyper-super-amazing 300MP 150D.
I'm trying not to get off topic...hoping this will help the OP sell his camera haha. My point is: older gear can still be wicked quality and they tend to not lose their value much anymore, so if buy one, then change your mind, you'll likely make most of your money back.
This is ridiculous. People can offer for sale their digital gear in the Misc. section of the classifieds. It's tedious for the seller (and the rest of us) that every time someone lists a digital set up for sale that we start having all these tired film and digital arguments. That's what the soap box is for. Don't hijack someone's classified ad. It benefits APUG if he's able to sell it here.
I have a D70s and a D700. The D70s is an outstanding camera and makes wicked 11x14's, maybe bigger I haven't tried. The price is fair.
Is it a D70 or the D70s?
I have a sales receipt for a Minolta XE-7 and 50/1.4 for $400 in mid-70s dollars that would disagree.
I still use the 10D myself. It is my only digital camera. It is beat to hell, but has under 20,000 clicks on it. I would still recommend one of these with what they are selling for these days, as I would recommend this D70 for $250. The fact that depreciation hits digital equipment very hard is something that should be taken full advantage of, especially by those of use who put most of our photography money into film stuff, and who don't necessarily need the latest-greatest, plastic-fantastic whiz-bang gizmos to make good use of a digital camera.
As long as your D70 comes with at-least 1 Nikon battery and the charger, and the camera hasn't seen much use, I'll offer to trade my Nikon F3HP with MD-4 motordrive, a Nikon SB-12 Speedlight, and a Nikon AI 43-86mm lens, as well as some "extras" (waist-level finder, 2 extra focus screens, Nikon heavy-duty off-camera flash cord, etc...), for your D70. My F3HP/MD4 are in excellent condition, as is the lens & Speedlight. Email me if interested.
I have to disagree with bblhed: My Nikon D50 with 6 MP made very good 20X30 prints (w/o pixillation) and with decent resolution--until the shutter failed after 3 years (something which was always unheard of with decent film cameras). The replacement D80 with 10 MP does better, as does my Canon S90 compact, also with 10 MP but on a smaller sensor ('tho larger than the typical compact sensor). Believe it or not, I have an old Olympus C-7000 with 7 MP on a small compact sensor that also makes very good 20X30 prints, although when that camera came out it was quite expensive for its limited feature set. My 35MM film Nikon F100 does about as well, but the shooting expense is now so high that I rarely use it.