Since the cost to ship might be too much, I thought I'd offer them up here first. #1 is a newer Time O lite. Hard to describe but the mechanical contact between motor and arm isn't secure. So motor turns but arm does not. #2 is an older one. Power to enlarger plug is not reliable. Also, red arm does not move back as quickly as it should. I have an excess of timers, so frankly don't want to take the time to repair or canabalize one for the other. I'm in d'town Mpls (North Loop area).