of course, they don't work! I don't think I will ever get around to having them worked on, so it's time to get rid of them. The Auto S2s are very good, very sharp rangefinders and if you send them to Konica master Greg Weber he would be able to make a good one from parts from both (perhaps at a discount since he would have plenty of parts) or he could fix both of them. Both shutters won't fire and one does not have the yellow focus patch. Both come with a Konica case. These cameras are fairly heavy, so I am going to ask $30 for shipping and handling in the U.S., and $50 for shipping internationally. Being over 4 pounds total, the minimum rate for international shipping would have to be Priority International.