FS: Nikor 4x5 stainless daylight tank, beautiful and complete

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  1. frobozz

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    Trying to pare down on things I have multiples of and really won't ever break... so here's an absolutely gorgeous, complete Nikor 4x5 tank - of course it can also be adjusted to develop smaller size cut sheets too. This lets you develop 4x5 just like you do your roll films, with the daylight fill lid, the ability to do whatever inversion regimen you prefer, etc.

    Holds up to 12 sheets of the same size at a time. Comes complete with the often-missing retaining strap. Original, matched lid and cap so everything fits properly. I don't think you're going to find a shinier one of these out there. It's been used, but never abused or put away gunky.

    I'm asking $175, including shipping to anywhere on the planet (Mars is extra). I take Paypal, or just about any form of payment that turns into money in my hands.

    Duncan


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    I own and use one of these and I think they are fabulous. One sold on eBay a few weeks ago for $225, and it was not in nearly this beautiful of condition. If I didn't already own one, I'd have already purchased this one. (I paid $181.50 for mine 3½ years ago...)

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    I'll take it.
     
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    Wow, very sweet. I will just have to admire it from afar, I am afraid.
     
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    Sold to tomalophicon, pending payment!

    Duncan
     
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    If the sale falls through, let me know. Because I'll take it! Thanks1
     
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    Paypal payment cleared, so this is officially SOLD!

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    This is a beautiful piece of equipment. I am curious; how easy are these tanks to load?
     
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    Not too bad, assuming of course you've locked in the adjustable portion of the reel correctly and firmly. With just a little practice you can become quite good at sliding the film into the slots. The only issue I've had at all is that if you fumble around with it a lot, the sheets want to start walking out of the slots again, before you're ready to hold them all in with the clip. Just requires you to go around the reel and tuck each one in before putting the clip on (and the clip can be tricky, in the dark!) I have never loaded more than 4 sheets at a time so it's not really a problem, but fully loading it with 12 could get interesting.

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    I just now finished developing a set of 4x5 sheets in my tank. (I was channeling my inner Weegee yesterday with my Crown Graphic. It was a rare nice day this time of year.)

    My tank is carefully configured and locked down for 4x5, which is the only format I develop in it. Loading was a breeze, even though I had not used the tank in over a year.

    I too notice a tendency for the sheets to back out of the slots slightly. I just do a once-around at the end and gently push them back in before adding the stainless band. It's not a big deal.

    If I had one tip to offer users trying to load one of these tanks, it would be to remember to NOT curl the sheets prior to insertion.

    Most of us who use stainless steel reels for our 35mm and 120 roll films have become accustomed to slightly curling the film, by compressing it between our fingers, in order to get it between the spirals, which then load from the inside out.

    These cages, however, load from the outside in. If one instinctively tries to curl the sheets slightly, they won't load. The sheets need to go into the slots perfectly flat, since the format adjustment screws are - or should have been - set to the full width of the film sheet itself.

    If you remember this, a dozen sheets can be loaded very quickly and cleanly in total darkness.

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    I figured it out by trial and error before finding the instruction sheet, but read the instruction sheet and it gives the key steps. Two major issues: The distance between the two sides of the reel should be set about 1/16" wider than the width of the film, so there's a little play, or the sheets won't slide in smoothly. Also, as you insert the sheets bend them slightly, following the curve of the reel (perpendicular to the axis you would curl the film slightly when loading rollfilm). When you've got it right, it's no problem developing 12 sheets in the reel, and I've done both 4x5" and 2x3". Also, the film should be emulsion side in.
     
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    If you do 12 at a time, looks like you would limit yourself from using some dilute developers. Thinking about how much HC110 is required.

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    According to the HC-110 data sheet, one Gallon of Dilution B can process 20 8x10 sheets of film. Since the Nikor tank uses 48 ounces of developer, it could handle up to 7.5 sheets of 8x10, but it only fits "3 sheets" of 8x10 (12 of 4x5). One could go as far as Dilution E and still have enough capacity.

    The only improvement one can make on this particular reel is to get a tank with the quick fill lid.
     
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    Unless there are multiple versions available, I believe that the design capacity of this tank is 36 fluid ounces. I know that's how much mine takes. That amount leaves a sufficient air bubble to produce nice agitation upon inversion.

    Yes, I've heard that later versions of the lid were made with a larger opening. From what I can tell, mine is the smaller opening. It takes approximately 30 seconds for me to fill the tank, and about the same to empty it. The two roughly cancel each other out and are both included in my overall time. My HP5+ development time is a longish 17 minutes at 68F/20C, so this reduces the impact of those 30 second operations. I've never had a problem with inconsistent development using this tank.

    Mike is also correct. Because the system is capable of processing such a large number of sheets, one must keep an eye on the dilutions used. I use home-brewed D-76d at 1+1. I like to provide 250ml of stock per 8x10 to play it safe. That works out to about 8-1/2 4x5 sheets per tank run. So I insert 8 exposed sheets and 4 dummys to keep the agitation consistent.

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    I finally got around to scanning the instruction sheet and making a proper PDF of it. I'll also post in the Darkroom Equipment forum of course, but for anyone that was following this thread it might come in handy.

    Nikor 4x5 tank instructions (2.8MB)


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    Great thanks Duncan