For sale is a Sinar P 4x5 set in good condition. There is only one buble empty at the back right. It has minor stratches etc. due to normal use. no dents. All knobs work smooth. Nice sold swiss made camera. Benefit is that when some adjustments are made this is done around the middle point of the lensboard. this will keep your focus point the same. with other systems you will need to refocus after angle change. I changed to a p2. There is a lot of 2nd hand stuff for sinar to buy on the net. Asking price is 350 euro.