Fuji Acros 100 with Rodinal or a more standard developer?

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  1. rayonline_nz

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    I have seen some images taken with Rodinal with the film rated at ISO 80. I have Rodinal but yet to use it. In the past I have used ID-11 and there is also Perceptol that can be purchased. Does the more standard developers give a more slick or finer grain image than Rodinal?

    To be used with cityscape and landscape shots both in the day and night.



    Thanks.
     
  2. Leigh B

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    I've developed many hundreds (?thousands?) of sheets of Acros in Rodinal over the past decades.
    Usually 1:50, though occasionally 1:100 for contrasty subjects.

    I love the combination. Would never consider any other developer.

    - Leigh
     
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    Most all the commercial developers produce very similar results. There are a few exceptions designed for special purposes like micro film. You would be hard pressed to look at two negatives and say this one was developed in Rodinal and this one in ID-11 or D-76.
     
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    Since you mentioned it, Acros in Perceptol stock produces such fine grain that I found it nearly impossible to use my grain focuser.
     
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    never is a very long time.too long to not experiment and learn new tricks.
     
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    Hi Ralph,

    I agree, never is a long time.

    My observations are based on over 60 years of developing my own film using numerous developers.
    Tricks are for youngsters.

    I settled on Rodinal at the end of a very long sequence of experiments.

    - Leigh
     
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    I agree with you. I have only used Acros in roll film formats so far. It's hard to beat that combination.
     
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    I just got 10 rolls of 120 Acros today, I'm an XTOL guy. Modern black and white film is amazing. I get amazing results with XTOL, I honestly don't think I've ever used a non Kodak film developer except for H&W Control. I'm 60, I think it's time to go nuts, and try a bottle of Agfa, no Adox? Is the new as good as the old?
    Best Regards Mike
     
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    I've given up on all my fancy grain focusers. I use a Bestwell Magnasight and just look for a sharp object. I think you need to be making 10x enlargements on TMY 2 before grain is very noticeable.
    Best Mike
     
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    I had good results with Perceptol, as did many others too. Do you shoot 35mm or MF? Acros is a very fine grained film so I doubt there will be much difference when using MF, but you may see a benefit with Perceptol in 35mm.
     
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    Acros in Rodinal is a fantastic combination, you get a lovely velvety grain but unlike what it does to some films you still get white whites rather than the pepper grain effect turning em grey.
     
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    I like Rodinal with Foma 100 will be trying it with Acros 100 when I shoot some,sounds like a excellent combination.:smile:
     
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    acros in rodinal .
    tri x in pyrocat hd.
    hard to beat.
     
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    Acros 100 in PMK Pyro, stunning.
     
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    +1 for Acros in Rodinal 1+50
    simply beautiful
     
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    I think Acros is one of those films that you'd be hard-pressed to find a "BAD" developer for. I love it in Perceptol 1+3, Xtol-R and Rodinal 1+100 in that order.
     
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    Good in Rodinal. Good in Xtol. Even good in Diafine (4+4 @200).
     
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    I'm just new, and have some question about Fuji Acros 100.
    I start to use this film, and before to use it I check the right ASA and developing time, to have good density, from shadow to high light, from zone 1 to zone 8.
    I'm trying Rodinal 1:50 and the developing time to have this result is 7:30 at 20°.
    My ASA is around 32 and 40. Not 100 or 80.
    I use a densitometer, the X-Rite 341.
    I don't understand if it is true to need this kind of ASA.
    What are your experience.? Why nobody speak about density method to calibrate your personal use of a film.?
    Thanks for your feedback and experience.
    Laurent
     
  20. Pete Myers

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    Acros in XTOl is magical. A lot of D&D services available out there that use it, and easy to get consistent results that way. VISIONS in Santa Fe does a great job, as well as COX out in CA. 7 minutes, 21C, D&D.
     
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    Hi Laurent,

    I've developed ACROS in Rodinal forever, with outstanding results (see post #2 above).

    You don't need to cut back the film speed. I've always shot at 100 and it works fine.

    - Leigh
     
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    I shot a few sheets of Acros 4x5 yesterday during hike along The Trail of Fallen Giants, in Golden Ears Provincial Park. EI 64. (8 second exposures with no reciprocity compensation given cuz it ain't necessary). Developed some in Pyrocat-HD, and one in Blazinal (Rodinal up here), 1+100, with 5 sec agitation every 3 minutes for a total time of 18:00. The resulting negative is quite nice. So, you won't go wrong with this developer.

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    Since Rodinal is the worst developer available, I would suggest D-76 1:1.
     
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    Some folks will VERY STRONGLY disagree with you.

    I've used Rodinal for decades with outstanding results on many films.

    However, it is not intended to be used with fast films.
    Results with ASA 400 and above may be less than optimum.

    - Leigh
     
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