So I am liking Sean's new organization of this forum and while reading through some past posts, it became evident to me just how disorganized some member organized functions are. Yes, I realize the organizers are volunteers, but there's some apparent slackers. Disorganization in some threads have led to a tense air of frustration. You can see (read) it in the threads. OK, here's a contraversial thought. It takes more than a good idea to be a good organizer of a member organized function. It takes time and committment to stay on top of things, it takes some organizational skills (online ones), and it takes some technology savvy to use the technology appropriately to track who gets what and where things are at. So unless one posses all that in ADDITION to the good idea, don't organize and let someone else do that. Just a thought that many have, but were unwilling to post. Don't misunderstand me, I am not trying to slag my fellow organizers and I am not trying to tout my own horn. I think it's great to have people with gung-ho ideas that add to this community. If it weren't for these guys, none of the member organized functions would exist. Of course there has to be a balance bewteen being the Nazi organizer and also just letting things happen so some fun (what's that?) can surface as well. Maybe "organizers" should have some minimum characteristics: time, committment to follow up, regular status reporting, hounding the deadbeats, etc... Sounds like a job! Anyway, this is just a rambling post. Art.