Help! 220 - 120 setup mistake!

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  1. Ambar

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    I'm traveling through New York and yesterday I went out on a little long exposure night shot adventure to take pictures of lower manhattan in pitch black. But I made one of those infantile stupid mistakes!
    I have a Fuji GF670 and I left the pressure plate set for 220 film while using 120!
    Should I be concerned with this? Has anybody done this before with this camera or any other?
     
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    If it wound OK, i wouldn't be concerned. I think it would be worse to have use 220 with the 120 setting as it wouldn't have been as tight.
     
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    Just remember that you only get 10 shots, not 20, and it should be fine.

    Ideally, the pressure plate rides in a way that leaves a channel for the film to 'float' in. It doesn't actually press the film against a surface. So setting the plate to 220 instead of 120 means that this channel is thinner. And the film could be pressed tighter against the rollers and film gate. So scratching becomes an issue. And it can take more force to wind the film forward, stressing the wind system.

    In practice, my bigger worry is forgetting to stop at the end of the actual roll since the counter will keep going.
     
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    It may be a little rough on the camera, but the film should be fine.
     
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    I've done that with a rangefinder (not a Leica). That's why I prefer an SLR. If the lens cap is on, I can't see anything through the viewfinder. :D
     
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    I've done this with a Mamiya 7. Didn't notice a focus issue, but I wasn't wide open. The film advance took more force, probably more than I am comfortable doing too many times. My film wasn't scratched up either.
     
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    Good Evening,

    If other manufacturers would adopt the Koni-Omega RF system, possible scratching and excessive winding force would not happen, since the pressure plate moves against the film only when the shutter is pressed. If the appoach is workable on the Koni, a camera with interchangeable lenses and backs, using it on something like the Fuji RF and other simple cameras should be a no-brainer.

    Konical
     
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    Did that once on one of my Fujis, there were no ill effects.
     
  9. Ambar

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    Thanks everyone! I'm about to cook the film and see what happens but I'm feeling pretty confident about it thanks to all of you!
     
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    I've made all the mistakes. Does that mean I am really good at photography?
     
  11. Roger Cole

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    In that case, 1) I should be closing in on excellence, and 2) take up large format if you want to really be perfect. There are more ways to screw up a shot than can be imagined in medium format or 35mm. :wink: