Help choosing and loading paper negatives

Discussion in 'Paper Negatives' started by horacekenneth, Dec 3, 2012.

  1. horacekenneth

    horacekenneth Member

    Messages:
    439
    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2012
    Location:
    MD
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I've been using Arista EDU Ultra VC RC Pearl as paper negatives in my 5x7 but I've been having trouble loading them into my film holders, they're too thick I think (medium weight?).
    Any suggestions for an easier loading (and good as paper negative) paper?
    I was thinking something standard weight like Ilford MGIV RC might be easier to load and I was also eyeing Adox MCP 312 but I can't figure out what weight it is.

    Thanks,
    Horace
     
  2. jcoldslabs

    jcoldslabs Member

    Messages:
    179
    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2009
    Shooter:
    8x10 Format
    I don't think paper thickness is the issue, but size. I have a 5x7 film negative in front of me and it measures 4 7/8" wide by 6 7/8" long. I believe photo paper is actually 5" by 7", so you'll need to trim 1/8" off one of the long sides of your paper to get it to slide into your film holder.

    Jonathan
     
  3. Roger Cole

    Roger Cole Member

    Messages:
    5,480
    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Location:
    Atlanta GA
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Yeah, I recently shot my first paper negatives using MGIV RC glossy. Trimmed to 4x5 for my 4x5 holders it simply won't fit. It has to be trimmed down slightly - easy enough with a paper trimmer.
     
  4. horacekenneth

    horacekenneth Member

    Messages:
    439
    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2012
    Location:
    MD
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    wow so a whole .125 needs to come off one of the lengths?
     
  5. Jeff Searust

    Jeff Searust Member

    Messages:
    361
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2007
    Location:
    Texas
    Shooter:
    Med. Format Pan
    yup--- I have spent many evenings in the darkroom cutting off paper to load 5x7 film holders.
     
  6. jnanian

    jnanian Advertiser Advertiser

    Messages:
    19,999
    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2003
    Location:
    local
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    cut the amount off the long edge so the paper fits under the guides.
    5x7 ( 4x5, 8x10 &c ) is actually the size of the (DRY) PLATES
    when the manufacturers started to make photo film ...
    there were still lots of people using plates, so people used those funny
    septums to convert their plate holder to film.
    eventually film holders were made for just film and more film was made, but the manufacturers continued to
    make them the same old / original sizes ... all that to say 5x7 paper, which is actually 5x7 :smile: is a bit too wide.

    have fun !
    john
     
  7. horacekenneth

    horacekenneth Member

    Messages:
    439
    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2012
    Location:
    MD
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    thanks