Hi, I have no knowledge of Kiev cameras so I need your help. This camera is offered to me as a Kiev model 2 or 2A (II or IIA). It comes with a 2/5cm Jupiter-8M lens. Here are some images from the seller: But looking at these sites I think it is a model 4A, because it hasn't two "stabilizing feet" beneath the bottom plate? http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kiev_rangefinder Its serial number is #6504396. Is it correct that the first two digits are the production year, making this a 1964 model? I believe the model 4A was made between 1959-1980. The model IIA seems to be made between 1955 - 1959. Asking price is Euro 99 (about USD 130). Is this a fair price if the camera is in good working order? I don't really mind if it is a 2A or a 4A. They look almost the same and I only want it to shoot film with nice older rangefinder cameras. And I like this model, also being a copy of a Contax. A real Contax is a bit more expensive so I'm willing to settle for a Kiev. The seller said he didn't want to lower his price because it is an early model 2 or 2A. I don't think he is lying or cheating, but maybe just mistaken about the model. If I can show him it's a model 4A, maybe he will lower his asking price. I'm driving over tomorrow, so I will see. An other question: is this a good & reliable camera to shoot with? I don't expect Leica quality but don't know what russian copy models are worth the effort or not. Thank you for your help!!